Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 19:58 UTC, submitted by FreeGamer
BeOS & Derivatives It seems like only yesterday when due to a combination of hubris, bad business decisions, and pressure from Apple and Microsoft, Be, Inc. went under, with its assets - including the BeOS - bought up by Palm, who now store it in a filing cabinet somewhere in the attic of the company's Sunnyvale headquarters. Right after Be went under, the OpenBeOS project was started; an effort to recreate the BeOS as open source under the MIT license. This turned out to be a difficult task, and many doubted the project would ever get anywhere. We're seven years down the road now, and the persistence is paying off: the first Haiku alpha is nearer than ever.
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RE: Wow...
by umccullough on Fri 24th Oct 2008 04:38 UTC in reply to "Wow..."
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I would assume that this is primarily because Windows is so radically different and "unknown" while BeOS is POSIX-compliant and not quite as different (though I'm sure a decent chunk of reverse engineering needed to be done). Any ideas? Also, anyone know how many people are working on the two projects? Maybe BeOS just has a bigger fan base.

Some of what made BeOS was already open-source - OpenTracker/Deskbar for example,, many of the modern drivers were already open source by the community...

The rest of it was well documented, and cleanly built.

The kernel was forked from NewOS, which was already a very BeOS-like kernel to start with...

Still, it's an awesome effort ;)

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RE[2]: Wow...
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 24th Oct 2008 05:21 in reply to "RE: Wow..."
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Ah, I see. So Haiku had a bigger head-start than I thought. That's always good. Too bad that couldn't also be the case with ReactOS.

I still can't wait for near-complete versions of both OSes, though. ;)

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RE[2]: Wow...
by Valhalla on Fri 24th Oct 2008 06:41 in reply to "RE: Wow..."
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umccullough wrote:
-"The kernel was forked from NewOS, which was already a very BeOS-like kernel to start with..."

Which was written by an ex-Beos engineer iirc.

umccullough wrote:
-"Still, it's an awesome effort ;) "

Hell YES, considering the meagre manpower they have at their disposal it's truly an amazing effort.

A public alpha would make a great xmas present indeed, I really hope they get the installation procedure as painless as possible together with a simple to burn livecd since I think most people are more or less expecting that nowadays. But perhaps most importantly I'm hoping developers will find it attractive, although I haven't programmed on Beos for many years, I have fond memories of the API and look forward to start programming using it again.

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RE[2]: Wow...
by TQH ! on Fri 24th Oct 2008 08:43 in reply to "RE: Wow..."
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Also it is very modular, so modules could be worked and tested on one at a time, which really helps trying to get everything together. Testing a module on BeOS was a strong advantage in the beginning.

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