Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Oct 2008 19:58 UTC, submitted by FreeGamer
BeOS & Derivatives It seems like only yesterday when due to a combination of hubris, bad business decisions, and pressure from Apple and Microsoft, Be, Inc. went under, with its assets - including the BeOS - bought up by Palm, who now store it in a filing cabinet somewhere in the attic of the company's Sunnyvale headquarters. Right after Be went under, the OpenBeOS project was started; an effort to recreate the BeOS as open source under the MIT license. This turned out to be a difficult task, and many doubted the project would ever get anywhere. We're seven years down the road now, and the persistence is paying off: the first Haiku alpha is nearer than ever.
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Apps needed
by chris_dk on Fri 24th Oct 2008 15:29 UTC
chris_dk
Member since:
2005-07-12

All I need to switch from Linux is:

* Sane bittorrent client like Transmission
* IM like Pidgin
* IRC like XChat
* Music player like Rhythmbox
* Movie player like mplayer

Looking forward to a fast booting, responsive OS!

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RE: Apps needed
by sogabe on Fri 24th Oct 2008 17:50 in reply to "Apps needed"
sogabe Member since:
2006-04-27

* Sane bittorrent client like Transmission

http://www.bebits.com/app/4221

* IM like Pidgin

IM Kit coming soon to Haiku:
http://www.freelists.org/archives/haiku-development/10-2008/msg0022...

* IRC like XChat

http://www.bebits.com/app/2623

* Music player like Rhythmbox

http://www.bebits.com/app/4434

* Movie player like mplayer

Haiku Media Player included
Or you can use VLC
http://www.bebits.com/app/2119

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RE[2]: Apps needed
by chris_dk on Fri 24th Oct 2008 18:47 in reply to "RE: Apps needed"
chris_dk Member since:
2005-07-12

Great!

Looks like Haiku and the apps are doing well.

Finally we'll have an OS made for the desktop.

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RE: Apps needed
by StephenBeDoper on Fri 24th Oct 2008 19:29 in reply to "Apps needed"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

All I need to switch from Linux is:

* Sane bittorrent client like Transmission


There is a version for BeOS:

http://bebits.com/app/4221

* IM like Pidgin


There's the im_kit, but sadly the development appears to be stalled (at least, the last SVN I tried won't connect to most protocols).

Which is a shame, because the im_kit was (IMHO) incredibly cool. It was basically just a background im_server, an im_client, and a prefs app - and it used the BeOS "people" files to store the IM contact info. So the "buddy list" was just a query window looking for "People files where IM Status is not 'offline'".

* IRC like XChat


Vision is quite nice:
http://bebits.com/app/2623

* Music player like Rhythmbox


There's SoundPlay, although it's a player-only (no library functionality) - but still the best "Winamp 2-style" player I've used. There's also Jukebox, which is more of a library/iTunes-style app:

http://www.bebits.com/app/4434

* Movie player like mplayer


mplayer was ported at one point, although I don't think it's been kept up-to-date. There is a fairly up-to-date port of VLC, however. And I believe the Haiku devs have made some progress on getting the native BeOS MediaPlayer to handle modern video codecs.

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RE: Apps needed
by bornagainenguin on Sat 25th Oct 2008 03:20 in reply to "Apps needed"
bornagainenguin Member since:
2005-08-07

chris_dk ruminated...

All I need to switch from Linux is:

* Sane bittorrent client like Transmission
* IM like Pidgin
* IRC like XChat
* Music player like Rhythmbox
* Movie player like mplayer!


I know I'm going to get modded to oblivion for this, but I can't help myself! I've gotta ask...

Why not use Transmission for your bittorrent client?

Why not use Pidgin for IM?

Why not use XChat for IRC?

Why not rock out with Rhythmbox and catch your daily dose of moveis and DVDs with mplayer?

Why do you even need to move off Linux in the first place if all your apps are running just fine there today?

Look at how difficult it has been for Linux just to get to this point, biw ask yourself how many more years will be needed to get working 3d drivers in Haiku? What about other standard hardware? Webcams? TV Cards? ETC?

I'm glad Haiku is coming along, really I am, but how much further along will Linux be by the time Haiku reaches where Linux is now?

I'm looking forward to seeing Haiku in the wild myself, would love to see the BeOS resurrected and available for every day use, but I've moved on these last seven years.

How much of the old BeOS community can Haiku really count on coming back? How many others have moved on like I did?

--bornagainpenguin

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RE[2]: Apps needed
by StephenBeDoper on Sat 25th Oct 2008 04:17 in reply to "RE: Apps needed"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

Why do you even need to move off Linux in the first place if all your apps are running just fine there today?


You started with a valid point, but go on to say:

I'm glad Haiku is coming along, really I am, but how much further along will Linux be by the time Haiku reaches where Linux is now?


In terms of raw functionality? I suspect Linux will keep on progressing at its current rate. In terms of basic usability, though? On that front, there has been much, much less progress in the Linux world.

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RE[2]: Apps needed
by chris_dk on Sat 25th Oct 2008 09:04 in reply to "RE: Apps needed"
chris_dk Member since:
2005-07-12



Why do you even need to move off Linux in the first place if all your apps are running just fine there today?


Because I'm getting tired of Linux and want an OS where the UI is responsive, because I'm tired of the active hostility to binary compatibility - like why should I even recompile the virtualbox driver because I've did a kernel upgrade?

Usability was never a driving force behind linux. These issues plague linux today and will always unless the developers change their ways.

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