Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Oct 2008 19:02 UTC
Windows Windows 7 is out and about. Microsoft has been unusually secretive about Vista's successor, but now that PDC is under way, they have unveiled the various enhancements to the user interface. Windows 7 might not have any significant under-the-hood changes (in fact, all your applications and devices will still work), but on the outside, Windows 7 represents the biggest change for the Windows user interface ever since Windows 95 came out.
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RE[2]: Great artists steal
by phoenix on Wed 29th Oct 2008 16:00 UTC in reply to "RE: Great artists steal"
phoenix
Member since:
2005-07-11

"- vertical taskbar, since monitors are widder than they are taller.

like in winXP?
http://temp.funtech.org/WinXP-1.png
or like in beos?
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Actually, it's been an option since the original taskbar appeared in Windows 95. You can dock it to any side of the monitor. You'd be amazed at how many helpdesk calls we get regarding "broken taskbars" because someone inadvertently dragged theirs to somewhere other than the bottom. ;)

Personally, I've had the taskbar in Windows at the top of the screen, set to auto-hide, since Windows 98.

What I'd like to see in Windows, is the ability to separate the application launcher from the taskbar. Let me put the app launcher at the top of the screen, with the app menu on one side, the systray on the other, and a set of quick launch buttons in the middle, all set to auto-hide. With a separate taskbar at the bottom of the screen that just shows what apps are running. It's a much nicer setup than everything crowded together in one bar.

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RE[3]: Great artists steal
by niemau on Wed 29th Oct 2008 17:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Great artists steal"
niemau Member since:
2007-06-28

What I'd like to see in Windows, is the ability to separate the application launcher from the taskbar. Let me put the app launcher at the top of the screen, with the app menu on one side, the systray on the other, and a set of quick launch buttons in the middle, all set to auto-hide. With a separate taskbar at the bottom of the screen that just shows what apps are running. It's a much nicer setup than everything crowded together in one bar.


i'm honestly not trying to troll; but, what you want sounds a lot like a default GNOME desktop. you'd just have to set the panels to autohide.

what would be neat with windows, or the mac os, would be if the user could add additional panels and customize as needed. the GNOME (and KDE) way is to have everything that could be in a panel/dock to be treated pretty much like individual objects/applets that can be placed in any panel that you create. that includes menus, launchers, clocks, system tray, etc.

edit: i just noticed your avatar... i'm guessing you're a bsd guy and probably fairly familiar with *nix DE conventions already. teehee.

Edited 2008-10-29 18:00 UTC

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RE[4]: Great artists steal
by phoenix on Wed 29th Oct 2008 18:20 in reply to "RE[3]: Great artists steal"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

"What I'd like to see in Windows, is the ability to separate the application launcher from the taskbar. Let me put the app launcher at the top of the screen, with the app menu on one side, the systray on the other, and a set of quick launch buttons in the middle, all set to auto-hide. With a separate taskbar at the bottom of the screen that just shows what apps are running. It's a much nicer setup than everything crowded together in one bar.


i'm honestly not trying to troll; but, what you want sounds a lot like a default GNOME desktop. you'd just have to set the panels to autohide.
"

Similar, yes, although I started out with this setup back in the LightStep/DarkStep days on Windows 98, before I got into Unix. However, I (personally) can't stand GNOME or even GTK apps. There's just something ... not ... quite ... right about GTK apps. I prefer QT apps, and KDE in particular.

As an aside, I really, really, really dislike how the new KDE4 panel works, as you can't set the size of the system tray applet, and it takes up all the space on the panel when you remove the taskbar applet.

what would be neat with windows, or the mac os, would be if the user could add additional panels and customize as needed. the GNOME (and KDE) way is to have everything that could be in a panel/dock to be treated pretty much like individual objects/applets that can be placed in any panel that you create. that includes menus, launchers, clocks, system tray, etc.


Agreed. Customisability of the app launcher, taskbar, systray, etc would be very nice to have on the Windows side of things.

edit: i just noticed your avatar... i'm guessing you're a bsd guy and probably fairly familiar with *nix DE conventions already. teehee.


Correct. I'm a FreeBSD user at heart and at home (desktop/server), a Debian Linux user at work (desktop/servers), and a Kubuntu Linux user on the road (laptop/netbook). ;)

Edited 2008-10-29 18:22 UTC

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