Linked by David Adams on Wed 29th Oct 2008 20:55 UTC, submitted by Geir Johasen
An interesting NYT Bits blog entry covers Opera's mobile browser. Buried in the middle of the article is this quote: "Opera's engineers have developed a version of Opera Mini that can run on an Apple iPhone, but Apple won't let the company release it because it competes with Apple's own Safari browser." It also talks about Opera on the Wii and browsers in cars. A good read. My Take: But back to the iPhone. As tempted as I am to just shrug it off, since Apple is free to run its App Store any way it pleases, as an enthusiastic iPhone user, I think Apple is shooting itself in the foot here, as it is with all the "competitive" apps being rejected. Apple does stand to lose some Google revenue by letting people use other browsers, but they have much more to gain by unleashing the creativity of the developer community and giving them the freedom to improve or replace core iPhone functionality. Hopefully competition from Android forces them to wake up.
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Yeah, well. There's a reason why I've been saying that Apple is a bastard company, a far worse monopolist than Microsoft has EVER been. EULAs should be made illegal, and all contracts should be set by a government body. In fact, business should be solely controlled by governments, and not by rick pricks like Steve Jobs.
I give us 50 years max. to continue on the same path of capitalism and government structure before it all collapses.
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This is ridiculous - Opera has actually made their engineers port their browser to the iPhone and all the while they knew perfectly it wouldn't be allowed in the app store, it's clearly outlined in the agreement. Just why do they do that?
They have so much time on their hands that they don't need to move Opera to Qt 4, until at least Qt4.5 is out?
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This is ridiculous - Opera has actually made their engineers port their browser to the iPhone and all the while they knew perfectly it wouldn't be allowed in the app store, it's clearly outlined in the agreement. Just why do they do that?
The answer to your question is simple. The people running Opera are as stupid as they've always been. Not only is it stated in the agreement that you CANNOT develop products that directly compete with Apple's software but there were quite a few articles about apps being stopped by Apple because of the same reason. My guess is that Opera is depending on people "illegally" installing their product not that the NDA is no longer there. Only this is probably the dumbest idea in the history of the software industry.
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Wow cg0def, angry much? LOL.
"The people running Opera are as stupid as they've always been."
Oh yeah, they are so stupid their growth is amazing. Opera Mini has had a growth of more than 300% in a year. They keep having record revenues and profits.
"there were quite a few articles about apps being stopped by Apple because of the same reason"
And you know exactly when Opera did this, do you? What makes you think Opera did this AFTER those apps?
Geez.
"My guess is that Opera is depending on people "illegally" installing their product"
How on earth would you do that? The iPhone doesn't have Java, so you would need the C based client, but that isn't even available for download anywhere.
You are obviously extremely ignorant.
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Buck:
"Opera has actually made their engineers port their browser to the iPhone and all the while they knew perfectly it wouldn't be allowed in the app store"
Considering that Opera specializes in making it easy to port their browser to many different platforms, I doubt it was a big deal. Probably some hacking needed on their existing C based Opera Mini browser.
What makes you think it is clear what Apple will allow or not? Opera Mini has a completely different approach to browsing, so it doesn't compete directly with Safari.
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This is ridiculous - Opera has actually made their engineers port their browser to the iPhone and all the while they knew perfectly it wouldn't be allowed in the app store, it's clearly outlined in the agreement. Just why do they do that?