Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Oct 2008 15:28 UTC, submitted by M-Saunders
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Bang on target, the new version of Ubuntu Linux is available for our downloading pleasure. Amongst various changes it sports updates to the installer, improved networking, and a new 'Mobile USB' version geared towards the blossoming netbook market. Grab a copy from the Ubuntu website, and check out Linux Format's hands-on look. Or the one at Simple Thoughts. Or the one at PolishLinux. And probably a few other websites as well.
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RE[2]: Defecting... in reverse
by Rahul on Thu 30th Oct 2008 21:50 UTC in reply to "RE: Defecting... in reverse"
Rahul
Member since:
2005-07-06

Fedora developers wrote much of PulseAudio and continue to maintain it. The only reason other distros that adopt technologies developed and integrated by Fedora first might feel better is because, including these innovative changes ahead of the pack means taking some risks and sometimes the results can be less than perfect for sometime till the pain points are sorted out.

NetworkManager 0.7, again being developed and integrated first within Fedora is now followed on by other distributions such as Ubuntu and OpenSUSE. Similar story with the Fedora's cross platform liveusb-creator or system-config-printer that is being included in Ubuntu and Mandriva.

You will see this happen again with Packagekit in the upcoming releases as well. Those are just a few examples. There is lots more in

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview

Distributions that take a more conservative path should really be happy that someone else is trail brazing for their benefit instead of complaining because if everybody waits for somebody else to do the hard work, the pace of innovation will fall down in the world of free and open source software quite drastically.

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apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

I'm extremely unhappy about packagekit, btw. If it works anything like it does in Fedora then no thanks. I think Ubuntu's packaging and update system is perfect and is far faster and better than Fedora's imo.

One of the main reasons why I changed from Fedora to Ubuntu a while back (FC2, I think or whatever version Fedora was at when the first version of Ubuntu came out), was that it was always quite buggy and way too bleeding edge sometimes. Up until Fedora 10 I couldn't even install Fedora on my machine, the installer would stall when it came to the disk partitioner.

While I love Ubuntu I like certain things that Fedora 10 did that blew me away. One of the cool things I saw is that it seems that likewise-open is installed by default and when you first setup the machine it picks up the windows domain you are in and joins it. The presentation of Fedora 10 beats Ubuntu badly and no a simple wallpaper or theme change doesn't cut it in this instance since Red Hat has patched some key Gnome parts and have cool things like transitions and fades that add that level of polish that I would have expected Ubuntu to have by now (they sure like to talk a big game in the specs though). Another thing I like is that they include some incredible wallpapers in the distro and quite a few of them too. I understand why Ubuntu doesn't do it, but I still think its nice. The art team in Fedora is focused and they carry a theme from start to finish, Ubuntu hasn't learned that lesson at all and they don't seem all that concerned about their presentation or consistency.

I'm not sure why but lately I've been starting to get irritated with Ubuntu (must be because I use a Mac more than I used to)and I hate when I see such a great ideas in the specs only to see them never make it past a concept or get defered two or three versions then dropped as the developer looses interest.

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RE[4]: Defecting... in reverse
by Rahul on Fri 31st Oct 2008 00:22 in reply to "RE[3]: Defecting... in reverse"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

"'I am extremely unhappy about packagekit, btw. If it works anything like it does in Fedora then no thanks. I think Ubuntu's packaging and update system is perfect and is far faster and better than Fedora's imo."

Well, Ubuntu developers disagree and are moving to PackageKit. Try the latest version in rawhide and you might come away with different impressions.

Btw, the transitions effects and stuff is already pushed from Fedora to upstream. Fedora prefers it that way

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream

http://bugzilla.redhat.com for any further requests for enhancements or bug reports.

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