Linked by Rahul on Sun 2nd Nov 2008 19:24 UTC
Linux Greg Kroah-Hartman is a longtime developer of the Linux kernel, known for his work maintaining USB drivers. O'Reilly Media recently interviewed Greg about his claim that the Linux kernel now supports more devices than any other operating system ever has, as well as why binary-only drivers are illegal, and how the kernel development process works. "I went and asked every single hardware manufacturer, the big guys that ship the boxes, Dell, IBM, HP--what do you ship that isn't supported by Linux? They came back with nothing. Everything is supported by Linux. If you have a device that isn't supported by Linux that's being shipped today, let me know.". If you would like to take up Greg KH on his claim, his email address is greg AT kroah.com
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RE[2]: Uhm
by Rahul on Sun 2nd Nov 2008 21:35 UTC in reply to "RE: Uhm"
Rahul
Member since:
2005-07-06

Sure, many vendors do exact that. Some vendors like Intel even get their drivers merged before they even release their hardware. What doesn't work is proprietary drivers. Whether the vendors make them or not is mostly irrelevant. Just because people know to make hardware, doesn't make them experts in being driver developers. Often, the opposite.

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RE[3]: Uhm
by ari-free on Sun 2nd Nov 2008 22:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Uhm"
ari-free Member since:
2007-01-22

What doesn't work is proprietary drivers.

yes and that is a big problem, especially for nvidia.

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RE[4]: Uhm
by Rahul on Sun 2nd Nov 2008 22:25 in reply to "RE[3]: Uhm"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

True and that I have already pointed. Intel started supporting 3D with free and open source drivers merged into Xorg a long time back and they have drastically increased their market share. ATI has followed through as well. Before ATI, people were arguing for "secret sauce" and "patent worries". Now that ATI has opened up and VIA has as well recently, Nvidia is really the odd man out with not any valid excuses to do the same thing.

Convincing Nvidia is surely part of the agenda in this statement

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Kernel_Driver_Statement

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RE[3]: Uhm
by sbenitezb on Mon 3rd Nov 2008 13:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Uhm"
sbenitezb Member since:
2005-07-22

Just because people know to make hardware, doesn't make them experts in being driver developers. Often, the opposite.


What? If you *do* make hardware, you know better than anyone about it to implement a driver. After all, most hardware is useless without drivers that interact with the OS. It's not like electronic engineers don't know C, or they lack programmers.

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RE[4]: Uhm
by Soulbender on Mon 3rd Nov 2008 14:14 in reply to "RE[3]: Uhm"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

What? If you *do* make hardware, you know better than anyone about it to implement a driver.


The quality of 3rd party drivers speak differently. Just because you know how your hardware work doesn't mean you're good at writing drivers.

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