Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th Nov 2008 09:39 UTC, submitted by Reyk
OpenBSD O'Reilly interviewed 27 OpenBSD developers to present the new release. They discussed buffer cache improvements, the new malloc(), the work to make the math library more C99 compliant, what is new in the SCSI area, crypto support for softraid, a lot of fundamental work happened in PF, a new tool to merge configuration files during upgrades, the status of OpenCVS, some cool features of OpenSSH 5.1, the initial support for USB webcams, the never-ending work on improving and extending the sensors framework, and more.
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RE[4]: Evolving Nicely
by dagw on Wed 12th Nov 2008 15:12 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Evolving Nicely"
dagw
Member since:
2005-07-06

Except they're not simply a making feature-by-feature, bug-by-bug reimplementation of CVS. They're making a better CVS that fits their needs. They're leaving out things they consider bloat in CVS and improving the stuff they don't think works as well as it should. Basically they considered the old CVS too stagnant and too bloated, so they made a better one.

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RE[5]: Evolving Nicely
by Wrawrat on Wed 12th Nov 2008 16:56 in reply to "RE[4]: Evolving Nicely"
Wrawrat Member since:
2005-06-30

To what I understand, OpenCVS is a reimplentation of CVS with better security and access control while staying compatible with the original as much as possible. At least, it's how they are advertising it. They cannot add or remove many features if they want it that way. Even if they change their minds, they are still building a new solution based on something that is obsolete.

I believe it would just be more productive to start up a new SCM.

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RE[6]: Evolving Nicely
by Soulbender on Wed 12th Nov 2008 19:20 in reply to "RE[5]: Evolving Nicely"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Do you always consider making the things you use yourself better as a waste of time?

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RE[6]: Evolving Nicely
by dagw on Wed 12th Nov 2008 21:56 in reply to "RE[5]: Evolving Nicely"
dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

they are still building a new solution based on something that is obsolete.

They obviously disagree with you that CVS is fundamentally obsolete. Sure Linus didn't like CVS, but all that means is that Linus didn't like CVS, not that CVS is obsolete. And given that they have far more experience with large scale collaborative software development than I have, I'm certainly not going to argue with them.

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RE[5]: Evolving Nicely
by zsitvaij on Fri 14th Nov 2008 08:55 in reply to "RE[4]: Evolving Nicely"
zsitvaij Member since:
2006-06-14

There's already a better CVS than CVS under a more liberal license, and it's called SVN.

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