Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 12th Nov 2008 09:39 UTC, submitted by Reyk
OpenBSD O'Reilly interviewed 27 OpenBSD developers to present the new release. They discussed buffer cache improvements, the new malloc(), the work to make the math library more C99 compliant, what is new in the SCSI area, crypto support for softraid, a lot of fundamental work happened in PF, a new tool to merge configuration files during upgrades, the status of OpenCVS, some cool features of OpenSSH 5.1, the initial support for USB webcams, the never-ending work on improving and extending the sensors framework, and more.
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RE[5]: Evolving Nicely
by Wrawrat on Wed 12th Nov 2008 16:56 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Evolving Nicely"
Wrawrat
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2005-06-30

To what I understand, OpenCVS is a reimplentation of CVS with better security and access control while staying compatible with the original as much as possible. At least, it's how they are advertising it. They cannot add or remove many features if they want it that way. Even if they change their minds, they are still building a new solution based on something that is obsolete.

I believe it would just be more productive to start up a new SCM.

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RE[6]: Evolving Nicely
by Soulbender on Wed 12th Nov 2008 19:20 in reply to "RE[5]: Evolving Nicely"
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2005-08-18

Do you always consider making the things you use yourself better as a waste of time?

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RE[7]: Evolving Nicely
by Wrawrat on Thu 13th Nov 2008 01:08 in reply to "RE[6]: Evolving Nicely"
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2005-06-30

Not always, but when I do, I take my time to investigate alternatives that might bring me more for my time and money.

It just seem pointless to me to reinvent the same old wheel, especially when there are ways to build newer and better wheels nowadays. That said, the OpenBSD team is completely free to do whatever they want: it's their project and it's not like it's gonna change my life.

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RE[6]: Evolving Nicely
by dagw on Wed 12th Nov 2008 21:56 in reply to "RE[5]: Evolving Nicely"
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2005-07-06

they are still building a new solution based on something that is obsolete.

They obviously disagree with you that CVS is fundamentally obsolete. Sure Linus didn't like CVS, but all that means is that Linus didn't like CVS, not that CVS is obsolete. And given that they have far more experience with large scale collaborative software development than I have, I'm certainly not going to argue with them.

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RE[7]: Evolving Nicely
by Wrawrat on Thu 13th Nov 2008 01:46 in reply to "RE[6]: Evolving Nicely"
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2005-06-30

Well, it's not like CVS is going to bit-rot projects that are still using it. However, many high-profile open-source projects and enterprises are moving to alternatives because they are improving the collaborative experience for their users. After using SCMs like SVN, Hg or Perforce, it's a bit hard to get back to CVS.

I just wonder why the OpenBSD folks didn't started up a brand new project instead of working around CVS.

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