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UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

The only problem is the bloated KDE 4.1 desktop. It's much slower than Windows XP on say a 1 GHz processor and 256 MiB RAM; but with Xfce instead of KDE, it is highly competitive.

Yeah, I've tried several KDE4 live CDs and noticed they all have one thing in common: they're slow as hell, to the point of locking up my machine with a 1.7GHz P4 and 256 megs of RAM. I thought, well, it could be that they're live CDs and maybe not set to use swap for whatever reason, badly laid out on disc, or maybe just KDE4 is not "ready" yet. After all, I have tried a few alpha and beta live CD demos.

I tried installing the kubuntu-desktop package after attempting an in-place upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10 to get a first-hand experience with KDE4, hoping for the best. The environment is at 4.1 or somewhere around there, and KDE were saying it should be mostly up to par with the original plans by then. Well... Ubuntu did do its upgrade and install KDE4 fine, but... the DE ran (err... crawled) like as POS. No lockups, but everything else remained.

Couple that with the fact that new versions of pretty much all the other major distros supporting KDE4 continue to lock up, give errors, and just run slow as hell... apparently I shouldn't have given KDE the chance. KDE4 is just a bloated desktop environment.

Disappointing that so many "big" distros are so quick to ditch KDE3, which is actually relatively light. Honestly, KDE4 reminds me of Vista in terms of its huge footprint. Hopefully Slackware releases one more with KDE3 before switching to the new release.

Edited 2008-11-18 01:24 UTC

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_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

I don't quite get why some people are finding kde 4.1 slow and bloated.

All my progs start really fast and are generally quite responsive. There used to be some serious slowness with nvidia but the latest beta has nearly completely removed those problems...

A couple of things are still really slow i.e. nepomuk but generally don't interfere.

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AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

Depends how much memory you have. If you test with 256MB as the guy above did, you'll see a noticeable difference; sitting at a desktop with KDE 4 takes around 250MB of RAM, while with GNOME it's about 150 and Xfce about 160 (yes, those numbers are right, in my tests at least). If you have 512MB or 1GB, that won't make much difference.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I tried installing the kubuntu-desktop package after attempting an in-place upgrade to Ubuntu 8.10 to get a first-hand experience with KDE4, hoping for the best. The environment is at 4.1 or somewhere around there, and KDE were saying it should be mostly up to par with the original plans by then. Well... Ubuntu did do its upgrade and install KDE4 fine, but... the DE ran (err... crawled) like as POS. No lockups, but everything else remained.

Couple that with the fact that new versions of pretty much all the other major distros supporting KDE4 continue to lock up, give errors, and just run slow as hell... apparently I shouldn't have given KDE the chance. KDE4 is just a bloated desktop environment.


Do you have a Nvidia video card by any chance?

http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Is_KDE_4.1_for_you%3F#Graphic...

If you are affected by this nvidia 2D driver perfomance bug, then KDE 4 will be horribly slow for you ... no matter what distribution.

Unique amongst Linux desktops, KDE 4 uses the GPU to accelerate the desktop. This works absolutely fine, and makes KDE 4 the fastest Linux desktop ... unless your graphics driver is broken like Nvidia's is.

This is a nvidia driver bug, not a KDE 4 bug nor a Linux distribution bug.

Honestly, KDE4 reminds me of Vista in terms of its huge footprint.


You need to check facts before you post.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/12/14/kde-uses-les...

http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3138

Edited 2008-11-18 04:26 UTC

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

they're slow as hell, to the point of locking up my machine with a 1.7GHz P4 and 256 megs of RAM.


Get more RAM? Seriously.

KDE4 (Kubuntu) does run very snappy on my Compaq Presario (1.7Ghz, Code Duo, 1Gb RAM) and KWin sure as hell handles eye-candy more stable than Compiz.
I dont know what this "slow and locks up" is about. It sure is helluva faster than Vista ever was on this laptop and I havent had it lock up. Granted, KDE4 is still rough around the edges but it's good enough for me to use every day at work.

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