Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Nov 2008 19:19 UTC, submitted by AdamW
Mandriva, Mandrake, Lycoris Thanks to the Mandriva Xfce volunteer development team, a community Xfce One edition of Mandriva Linux 2009 is now available for download from all official Mandriva mirrors. A list of download locations can be found on the Wiki page. This release gives you all the benefits of Mandriva Linux 2009 along with a fast and stable Xfce desktop.
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RE[4]: another distro!
by Adurbe on Tue 18th Nov 2008 10:07 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: another distro!"
Adurbe
Member since:
2005-07-06

No, every operating system does not need to be the 'best' but it SHOULD have something unique about it.

If I release an Ubuntu distro with a black theme, does it deserve news space?

In my opinion, no.

Although what they have created was no doubt a labour of love, it appears to contain nothing groundbreaking, nothing even evolutionary


If I am mistaken about this, please, provide me examples and argue your case


I am being modded down because people disagree with the sentiment, thats fine, but noone has retorted with a reason why this distro is anything different from any other or why I should use it over ubuntu or opensuse (the distros I currently use)

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RE[5]: another distro!
by spiderman on Tue 18th Nov 2008 11:39 in reply to "RE[4]: another distro!"
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

Ubuntu or opensuse? Quite different beasts if you ask me.
Mandriva has nothing to do with Ubuntu and little in common with opensuse.

For one thing, Mandriva is a desktop distro, maybe the best desktop distro out there. It is tuned for the desktop. It boots fast, and launches applications fast (because it has preload by default). It has the most intuitive and best configuration tools. The XFCE edition is very polished and is quite different. I like XFCE because I find it the most intuitive desktop out there. It is a lot easier than KDE or GNOME for me. Mandriva and XFCE is the perfect match for me.

This is a great release and I'm happy they talk about it here.
This is one article about a new realease of Mandriva in the middle of 100s of articles about Windows 7, which is not released.
I don't see what you are complaining about. Mandriva is one of the most advanced distros out there (I believe it is the most advanced distro for the desktop) and it has a lot of unique features and this release brings a lot of new ones. This is a big step forward in the field of desktop OS. Ubuntu is just debian testing with a new theme and some desktop apps installed by default.

The biggest feature of Mandriva 2009 is its speed in my opinion. Try it. It boots in less than 15 seconds on my desktop and applications launch immediately. Nothing to do with Ubuntu or Opensuse.

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RE[6]: another distro!
by Adurbe on Tue 18th Nov 2008 13:57 in reply to "RE[5]: another distro!"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

I am aware Mandrivia is not a derivitive of opensuse nor ubuntu (it was a redhat spin-off back in the day but that doesnt really hold true anymore)

Ubuntu is more than just debian testing with open office, have you used th new network manager? THAT is (was) a new, unique feature.

Whats the comaprable feature in this release?

Please note im asking what is new in THIS release, NOT mandrivia in general

Is XFCE faster than a gnome install? they both run everything on the same gtk+ framework as far as I understand so in reality, where is this performace boost coming from? less memory usage of loading the panel?

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RE[5]: another distro!
by satan666 on Tue 18th Nov 2008 13:44 in reply to "RE[4]: another distro!"
satan666 Member since:
2008-04-18

No, every operating system does not need to be the 'best' but it SHOULD have something unique about it.

If I release an Ubuntu distro with a black theme, does it deserve news space?

In my opinion, no.

Although what they have created was no doubt a labour of love, it appears to contain nothing groundbreaking, nothing even evolutionary


If I am mistaken about this, please, provide me examples and argue your case


I am being modded down because people disagree with the sentiment, thats fine, but noone has retorted with a reason why this distro is anything different from any other or why I should use it over ubuntu or opensuse (the distros I currently use)


You are modded down because you are ignorant. Ten years ago, yes that's right, ten years ago there wasn't an user friendly Linux desktop. Mandriva took RedHat (which was server oriented) and created this desktop oriented distro. Mandriva is not another distro simply because Mandriva was around long before
most of today's popular distros. Maybe you can tag "another distro" most of those distros that came after Mandriva, but Mandriva remains a trailblazer in Linux desktop.

Edited 2008-11-18 13:45 UTC

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RE[6]: another distro!
by Adurbe on Tue 18th Nov 2008 14:01 in reply to "RE[5]: another distro!"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

ignorance can sometimes be a blessing as it avoids arrogance...

You are arguing that Mandrivia is a good distro. THIS I do not deny. In paticular in the historical sense

But how does this xfce community version further the cause?

As i have asked in a previous post,

Please provide examples

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RE[5]: another distro!
by StephenBeDoper on Tue 18th Nov 2008 13:56 in reply to "RE[4]: another distro!"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

but noone has retorted with a reason why this distro is anything different from any other or why I should use it over ubuntu or opensuse (the distros I currently use)


But by the same token, you haven't explained why the problem that you're railing against is actually a problem of any significance - aside from pointing out that it doesn't appeal to you personally.

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RE[6]: another distro!
by Adurbe on Tue 18th Nov 2008 14:10 in reply to "RE[5]: another distro!"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

ok,

The problem as I see it is people are putting in work on re-inventing the wheel again and again. Slapping their own badge on it and calling it a 'new distro'

There are plenty of features which could have utilized their skill to further the cause of linux as a desktop alternative.

instead they have created something which is little more than a differnt desktop on the same core

nothing is new nor evolved.

That is my problem with these 'distros' in general

I will remind you my original rant (which I concede it was) was because it was not a news worthy story.

Which I still feel, it was not

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RE[5]: another distro!
by Jokel on Tue 18th Nov 2008 18:49 in reply to "RE[4]: another distro!"
Jokel Member since:
2006-06-01

Well I use Mandriva 2009 for various reasons. One of the most important reasons is the Mandriva Control Center. Here all important things are grouped together. Hardware, software, system settings, logs, boot settings, security settings, network and sharing - everything is managed from this center. The only Linux distribution that as a bit of the same ease of use is OpenSUSE.

In my opinion Ubuntu has a long way to go to even meet the ease of use Mandriva has. Kubuntu is a real KDE-disaster. It does not even comes close in the neigbourhood of the KDE implementations OpenSUSE or Mandriva have.

Hardware recognition is also one of the strong points of Mandriva. A lot of hardware that is not working under Ubuntu or other distro's, just work without any problem using Mandriva.

I tried a lot of distro's. I also tried Ubuntu, and although it is a nice distro, I fail to see why everybody is so exited about it. It is a reasonable, tough bit over-hyped, distro.

I use Mandriva 2009 on a day-today base. KDE 4.1.2 takes a little time to get used to, but after a while you do not want to get back to KDE 3.x. All applications and hardware (and even games) I need work without any problem, so I am satisfied user at this moment.

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