Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 19th Sep 2005 17:02 UTC, submitted by Eli M. Dow
Mono Project Build applications for Linux while maintaining cross-platform capabilities using .NET languages.
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RE: zealotry?
by on Tue 20th Sep 2005 00:59 UTC in reply to "zealotry?"

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If you think you are smart enough, then please bring the entire discussion links. Bringing Seth's comments only, doesn't help at all. Or maybe you didn't even try to read the responses from Mono community?

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RE[2]: zealotry?
by on Tue 20th Sep 2005 01:29 in reply to "RE: zealotry?"
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the responses from the mono community (for the most part) is that redhat are zealots/pawns of sun. their response to the ecma royalties thing is that a ms engineer posted an email on some mailing list saying they wouldnt. given the history of microsoft when dealing with their competition, even if ms lawyers came out and said that they would never charge royalties, people should still be warey. hell, we have yet to hear novells lawyers say that its all good, let alone ms. really, all we have is miguel saying "dont worry about it".

as for patent infringement, there are cute diagrams about what is under microsoft patent, and what is under ECMA, again not mentioning that even the ECMA stuff can be used against us. ECMA allows the company to retain IP ownership, it isnt the same thing as ANSI, and the response has been "well, its a standard".

the reason the seth post comes up again and again is that we have yet to see a miguel post that addresses the points he brings up. he tends to say that redhats refusal to adopt mono is plain old anti-microsoft hatred, that .net is really good tech, and everyone nods sagely, because everyone knows how zealotous those free software nuts are. this bugs me, seth has a very good argument that not only has yet to be addressed, but is dismissed left right and center.

dont get me wrong, im a big fan of .net, i feel its java++ (or will be eventually once the platform matures more), and that mono itself is an extremely impressive accomplishment. i have nothing but respect for miguel, anyone who will take an interview at ms as a platform to evangelise free software will become a geek hero to me, for that reason alone. my problem isnt with mono, its with the dismissal of perfectly lucid and valid arguments as "Zealotous", and being ignored.

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