Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Tue 18th Nov 2008 22:07 UTC, submitted by NicolasRoard
Window Managers The new 0.4 version of Etoile had just been released. Etoile intends to be an innovative, GNUstep-based, user environment built from the ground up on highly modular and light components. It is created with project and document orientation in mind, in order to allow users to create their own workflow by reshaping or recombining provided Services (aka Applications) and Components. 0.4 is a developer-targeted release on its way towards this goal. As a developer-focussed release, this predominantly consists of frameworks. A few demonstration applications are also included.
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by shahid on Wed 19th Nov 2008 08:10 UTC
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I fail to see the point of this project other than to slap on a plug-ugly (aqua-inspired - what else)theme on a still great desktop.
The original NEXT/OPEN/GNUstep effort is still the benchmark in desktop design with its utilitarian and unadultered approach to usability, not least having been created by some of the finest minds in the industry. And to have a bunch of amateurs undermime it with such a derivitive eye-sore is just sad

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RE: saddening
by NicolasRoard on Wed 19th Nov 2008 09:45 in reply to "saddening"
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Etoile is _far_ from being a theme put on a "still great desktop" (by this I guess you mean GNUstep, and/or NeXTSTEP).

1) GNUstep is not a desktop, it's a programming framework. There are GNUstep apps (check the gap project, gworkspace) that together can be used to form a desktop. Etoile is a desktop, and is composed of both programming frameworks to simplify writing apps and of desktop applications.
2) Etoile does NOT want to create a NeXTSTEP-like desktop, nor a MacOS-like desktop. Although we obviously are inspired by both.
3) This 0.4 release is aimed to developers. Wait for the 0.5 for a user-oriented release. What 0.4 brings is new programming tools and frameworks. Notably, as the music player Melodie shows, you can write a complex application in Smalltalk + Etoile frameworks, in a very simple manner.
4) There is far more to a desktop than the theme it's using.

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RE: saddening
by greygandalf on Fri 21st Nov 2008 15:38 in reply to "saddening"
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Well, isn't your comment a bit harsh? You are not forced to theme your desktop and you are not forced to use Etoile, if you wish, you can just use GNUstep and install the applications you like. Etoile is a projects which builds on GNUstep and which adds new powerful frameworks and applications. The choice is yours.

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