Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 27th Nov 2008 21:45 UTC, submitted by lemur2
KDE The KDE team has released the first beta of KDE 4.2, slated for release coming January. Quite a lot of new features have been added, as well as lots of bug fixes and performance improvements. This release also makes a lot of strides to feature parity with KDE 3.x, by adding those small little features that KDE 3.x users are barely aware of, but which were missed in KDE 4.0/4.1, such as taskbar grouping, multiple rows in the taskbar, panel auto-hiding, a traditional icon desktop through 'full-screen' foderview, and so on.
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RE: Comment by moleskine
by KAMiKAZOW on Fri 28th Nov 2008 08:55 UTC in reply to "Comment by moleskine"
KAMiKAZOW
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2005-07-06

complete absence of power management

Are you lying on purpose? PowerDevil http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/PowerDevil?content=85078 is there and works very well -- even in KDE 4.1 (I use it with openSUSE 11.1). Starting with 4.2 it's officially part of KDE.

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RE[2]: Comment by moleskine
by moleskine on Fri 28th Nov 2008 12:07 in reply to "RE: Comment by moleskine"
moleskine Member since:
2005-11-05

Are you lying on purpose? PowerDevil http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/PowerDevil?content=85078 is there and works very well -- even in KDE 4.1 (I use it with openSUSE 11.1). Starting with 4.2 it's officially part of KDE.


Throwing around accusations of this kind is pretty immature and never helpful. I have KDE 4 on Debian and there is no power management worth the name. There might be tomorrow, but not today. Your OpenSuSE 11.1 has been unavailable for about 99 per cent of the time since KDE 4 series was launched so I am unclear what point you are trying to make.

Yes, Power Devil is well known to be the future but it has not arrived yet. Google around and you'll see that power management features either absent or not working (via trying to bodge the 3.5 stuff on 4) on KDE 4.0.x or 4.1.x has been a frequent hassle.

But let's not get hooked up on power. The crux here is that the difference between a DE (or anything else, in fact) which is usable and one which is not can be surprisingly small. Often all it takes is one to two missing features and bang, you've lost a chunk of your userbase because those users rate some features much more highly than the devs assume. That's one reason that careful research into users and their wants/foibles is so important. You need to know what matters and what doesn't, not just to you but to your users too.

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RE[3]: Comment by moleskine
by KAMiKAZOW on Fri 28th Nov 2008 16:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by moleskine"
KAMiKAZOW Member since:
2005-07-06

I have KDE 4 on Debian and there is no power management worth the name. There might be tomorrow, but not today.

That's Debian's fault. PowerDevil has been posted to kde-apps.org in July. It works on KDE 4.1. It's the distributor's responsibility to package and distribute apps.

OpenSuSE 11.1 has been unavailable for about 99 per cent of the time since KDE 4 series was launched so I am unclear what point you are trying to make.

My point is that PowerDevil is here since July. SUSE is capable of bundling it. When Debian does not bundle it with KDE 4.1, it's not KDE's fault.

Yes, Power Devil is well known to be the future but it has not arrived yet.

It has arrived months ago: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/PowerDevil?content=85078

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