Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 29th Nov 2008 21:22 UTC
Linux Even though there are a lot of happy people using Apple's iPhone very happily, there's also a group of people who are not so happy, most likely because of Apple's rather strict policies regarding applications and developers. While most of these people would just jailbreak the thing, some take it a step further - by installing another operating system. Yes, Linux now runs on the iPhone (1st gen/2nd gen, and the 1st gen iPod Touch).
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RE[4]: Wha?
by Ford Prefect on Sun 30th Nov 2008 00:40 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Wha?"
Ford Prefect
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2006-01-16

I am not the Linux community. In fact I believe there is no single person in the world who may speak for "the Linux community".

You have to realize that what you are talking about is exactly not the thing most of the Linux developers are interested in. The are absolutely _not_ interested in the people who "don't care". The people who use it, the enthusiasts, these are people who _do_ care and these are the important ones as well - they bring the whole thing forward, not your Grandma.

This is not a company who needs mass revenues to survive. This is not a religion who needs to educate everybody else. This is _exactly_ a bunch of "works for me (or I will eventually fix it)" people, and that's nothing rude.

The open-source ecosystem is in very good health ever since. Old school market rules don't apply to it. This may not be how you like things to work, but it is just as it is and it doesn't have anything to do with the people involved or their attitude.
It just doesn't make so much sense for people to work on issues they are not interested in themselves without payment. That's why some things get done and others don't. The amazing thing now is how many things actually get done.

I also don't believe in this "best of both worlds" thing. I don't think you can get that, there are too many contrary paradigms. This will take a lot of time -- but the beauty about this thing is, that it will have all the time it takes. It won't suffer an early death, as companies and proprietary systems do.

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RE[5]: Wha?
by OSGuy on Sun 30th Nov 2008 01:38 in reply to "RE[4]: Wha?"
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2006-01-01

Although I do believe what you say is true about the linux kernel hackers and their intentions and goals "works for me", unfortunately, based on the entire business world and IT professionals, these linux hackers have chosen the wrong path. Pretty much every review I have read is about "linux" on the desktop and consistency as darknexus has stated. Based on the type of behaviour of the kernel hackers, I can assure everyone these reviewers and IT professionals wanting this type of consistency have a voided hope. Where do I come? Well, "it almost always works for me" and personally I have no problem using Linux and although in general I am a third party software developer, unfortunately I am not as advanced as these kernel hackers are -- in order for me to do something about consistency. If I could help, I would help. This is where people like me and others fall apart. I want to help but I can't, others can help but they won't.

Back on topic, that linux on the iPhone is good as a personal exercise and train yourself, get more experience and learn about linux but I don't see it how it would be useful and why (besided learning) anyone would want to install it. As a training excercise it is good but that's about it.

Edited 2008-11-30 01:48 UTC

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