Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 29th Nov 2008 21:22 UTC
Linux Even though there are a lot of happy people using Apple's iPhone very happily, there's also a group of people who are not so happy, most likely because of Apple's rather strict policies regarding applications and developers. While most of these people would just jailbreak the thing, some take it a step further - by installing another operating system. Yes, Linux now runs on the iPhone (1st gen/2nd gen, and the 1st gen iPod Touch).
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RE[5]: Wha?
by christianhgross on Mon 1st Dec 2008 21:59 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Wha?"
christianhgross
Member since:
2005-11-15

No... The problem here is plain and clear the Linux user.

Here we have YET ANOTHER platform where Linux runs half backed without any real value whatsoever...

Where is the "Scratch one's Itch"?

Eric Raymond says:

Every good work of software starts by scratching a developer's personal itch.

The personal itch reference here is to solve a problem, solve an issue that they have.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar...

So tell me what the freaken problem here is? Answer there is none other than, "hey I have time to kill with no real reason on why I would do that..."

Apache scratched a real itch a real problem. Perl, PHP, MySQL all scratched itches, real problems that people were having.

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RE[6]: Wha?
by sbergman27 on Mon 1st Dec 2008 22:50 in reply to "RE[5]: Wha?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

No... The problem here is plain and clear the Linux user. Here we have YET ANOTHER platform where Linux runs half backed without any real value whatsoever...

I disagree. You are saying that if these guys didn't get a Linux kernel running on iPhone hardware, then the Linux kernel developers would implement a policy of maintaining a stable internal driver abi, and there would be one package manager to rule them all instead of yum, apt, and yast. That is a completely nonsensical assertion.

Actually, Linux is not running "half-baked" here. It is just barely running at all because that is the state of this very young project.

I use OpenWRT every day in my work to extend the capabilities of WRT54GL routers to handle the needs that my clients have. Standard WRT54GLs do not have the capabilities required. The OpenWRT firmware is rock solid stable and far *better* than the firmware that the routers come with. But there was a time that the OpenWRT project was at this stage, just getting the kernel to boot, and I'm sure someone must have made a post similar to this one in his blog or on the OpenWRT site. And now the results of that project are invaluable to me and many others.

Where is the "Scratch one's Itch"?

See the above paragraph.

Eric Raymond says:

Eric Raymond is (in my opinion, of course) a self-important windbag whose quotes generally aren't worth the bandwidth used to propagate them.

So tell me what the freaken problem here is?

The "freaken" problem is that you and Darknexus are presuming to dictate what other people should and shouldn't do for you with their time, talents, and efforts. And while we're on the subject... what have you done for me lately?

Edited 2008-12-01 23:00 UTC

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RE[7]: Wha?
by apoclypse on Mon 1st Dec 2008 22:57 in reply to "RE[6]: Wha?"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17


The "freaken" problem is that you and Darknexus are presuming to dictate what other people should and shouldn't do for you with their time, talents, and efforts. And while we're on the subject... what have you done for me lately?


Brava, Sir, Brava! To top it off now you have Janet Jackson stuck in my head. Brilliant!

A little undue sarcasm because I agree with you. ;)

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RE[6]: Wha?
by apoclypse on Mon 1st Dec 2008 22:51 in reply to "RE[5]: Wha?"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

WTF are you talking about? The author of the code most certainly had an itch, just because its not your itch doesn't mean his is not valid. Tell me what possible value did Pong have? Someone decided it was their itch and it so happened that others had that itch as well now we have a multi-billion dollar industry out of that itch, that doesn't negate the that fact that the game was developed on what was then a super computer that was supposed to be used for scientific and educational purposes. Who the hell are you to judge someone on how they spend their time. The saying goes scratch YOUR OWN itch, not scratch the other guys itch. To some Linux not running on everything possible under the sun is a problem, an itch if you will.

The nerve of some people, the sense of entitlement displayed nowadays astounds me to no end. You want something as "useful" as Apache code it you damn self. in the meantime I'm going to work on my game which may hold absolutely no interest to anyone but myself. Why? My back is itchy and I'm gonna scratch that bitch to till it bleeds. I could give two shits about Apache.

Edited 2008-12-01 22:53 UTC

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