Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Dec 2008 23:31 UTC, submitted by linuxlinks
Window Managers "Mainstream Linux distributions typically default to one of two desktop environments, KDE or GNOME. Both of these environments provide users with an intuitive and attractive desktop, as well as offering a large raft of multimedia software, games, administration programs, network tools, educational applications, utilities, artwork, web development tools and more. However, these two desktops focus more on providing users with a modern computing environment with all the bells and whistles featured in Windows Vista, rather than minimising the amount of system resources they need. For users and developers who want to run an attractive Linux desktop on older hardware, netbooks, or mobile internet devices, neither KDE or GNOME may be a viable option, as they run too slowly on low spec machines (such as less than 256MB RAM and a 1 GHz processor). This article seeks to identify the best lean desktops for Linux, for users that have old or even ancient hardware."
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XFCE not that fast
by fernape on Tue 2nd Dec 2008 08:40 UTC
fernape
Member since:
2006-11-17

I disagree with XFCE being in that list.
I've been testing it on my FreeBSD 7.0 RELEASE and it takes exactly the same time to launch than GNOME (24 ~ 26 seconds) and the applications boot up as fast as they do in GNOME.

Even more, as a matter of compatibility, some other apps (I remember evince right now) takes two or three times more time than it does in GNOME. I checked the memory consumption but I don't remember the numbers so I can't say anything for sure.
I really didn't find any reason to switch from GNOME to XFCE

Similar issues can be found with e17 (also tested on FreeBSD 7.0 RELEASE). Firefox 3 miserably crashes on boot up (window freezes forever).

But please, don't get me wrong, they are very good alternatives, though probably a list of drawbacks, beside the list of features would have been healthy.

Cheers

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RE: XFCE not that fast
by dindin on Tue 2nd Dec 2008 14:52 in reply to "XFCE not that fast"
dindin Member since:
2006-03-29

I agree with you on XFCE. It is not that fast and in some cases I have found Gnome to be better. Hell, you load most og GnomeLibs anyways.

XFCE was good once a upon a time. But not anymore. I can customize Gnome to get the same look and trim the fat to get even better performance. XFCE had a good opportunity to change the way apps are developed using GTK - maybe some like a Mac with GTK but given that there is no difference between it and Gnome - Gnome wins out.

As far as I am concerned there is only two DEs - KDE and Gnome. I use Fluxbox but do not consider it a DE - it can be after you added serveral other programs that are not part of it. But none give the Internationalization/multi-linuistic features that Qt/GTK2 provide.

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RE[2]: XFCE not that fast
by irbis on Tue 2nd Dec 2008 15:27 in reply to "RE: XFCE not that fast"
irbis Member since:
2005-07-08

Well, when I start Xfce from GDM it starts quicker than Gnome. Also Xfce clearly eats less system resources like RAM. Things like that can matter a lot if you run a slower and older machine.

Oh, and before someone throws the old line: "just buy more RAM, it's cheap", you know, older computers may not even support much RAM. Besides, there's no reason (except marketing by hardware companies) why everyone should buy a brand new fast computer every few years. A 10 years old computer that has maybe got a couple of small hardware upgrades should be capable of running everyday desktop tasks just fine today. It is because of too bloated desktop environments and applications if that is not possible.

At least Xfce still tries to support older and slower computers too while also offering a modern desktop environment experience and features. Too bad that they don't have huge developer resources, however. On the other hand many developer geeks of other bigger desktop environments (probably running quite fast and new computers themselves) don't sometimes seem to much care for users of older and slower computers.

You could also read my comment below concerning the new features of upcoming Xfce 4.6: http://www.osnews.com/thread?338904

Edited 2008-12-02 15:40 UTC

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