Linked by Kroc Camen on Thu 4th Dec 2008 18:20 UTC
Editorial Songbird is a new open-source music player that has this week landed at 1.0. Songbird is described as a "web player"- a music player for this modern, connected era. It blends the web-rendering core of Firefox (Gecko), with the media capabilities of GStreamer- a cross-platform, open-source media playback engine.
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RE[5]: Comment by leos
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 4th Dec 2008 22:10 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by leos"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

You select a language, or languages during installation, and that is all that you get. Why should someone who speaks Russian be loaded up with simplified Chinese translations and font packages?


This has been the freakiest week in the history of evar for me. I've had all sorts of when-hell-freezes-over moments, but this one tops them.

Dude, I totally agree with sbergman27.

I just want to select "English (UK)" during installation, and be done with it (computing in my native language is silly and awkward). On my Mac, lots of space is wasted on supporting languages I don't use, and the only way to reclaim this space is through 3rd party tools that often break some applications or even the operating system as a whole.

I hope Apple realises this one of these days. Heck, I don't think the MAc even HAS English (UK). It just has the US variant.

Edited 2008-12-04 22:11 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by leos
by Kroc on Thu 4th Dec 2008 22:14 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by leos"
Kroc Member since:
2005-11-10

Isn’t this something being somehow addressed in Snow Leopard? All the apps have significantly reduced file sizes. Something about centralising the help documentation and translations -- I can’t remember for sure.

Certainly how it is now is crude and clunky, but we musn’t be obtuse just because most only speak only one language and have only one culture.

(I only speak two languages: English, and Bad English)

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RE[7]: Comment by leos
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 4th Dec 2008 22:18 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by leos"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It's not about how many languages one speaks (I do a few), but about control. I don't need anything else than UI in English, and spelling control in UK and NL - that's it. The rest is just wasted space. And it can amount to hundreds of megabytes on a Mac.

A simple control panel applet where you can remove unused languages would suffice. Doesn't even need to be at install time.

That is not to say others do it any better. Try getting spelling control installed on Windows or Office - other than your default one. Is it even possible?

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RE[6]: Comment by leos
by sbergman27 on Thu 4th Dec 2008 22:53 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by leos"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

I've had all sorts of when-hell-freezes-over moments, but this one tops them. Dude, I totally agree with sbergman27.

Is it really that unusual for us to agree? I find that I sometimes agree with you and sometimes disagree with you. Perhaps I'm more likely to post about it when I disagree.

At any rate, in this case I can't help but feel that we are only agreeing on an item in the category "duh". You know, in there with "the flu sucks" and "Britney Spears is annoying". ;-)

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