Linked by weildish on Fri 12th Dec 2008 00:46 UTC
In the News In Japan at ATR Computational Science Laboratories, the first thoughts in history were successfully read via a computer -- and not just by guessing or even educationally guessing. Scientists began by showing test subjects the six letters that spell "neuron." Afterwards, by measuring the subjects' brain activity, they were able to reconstruct the six images and display them on a monitor. The images were fuzzy, of course, but obviously spelled neuron. ATR said that it's very possible that one day this technology will be able to read our dreams.
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RE: Freaky and Pointless
by mounty on Fri 12th Dec 2008 21:25 UTC in reply to "Freaky and Pointless"
mounty
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2005-12-12

Strictly, it's difficult to argue that the technology is pointless when you go on to specify one application --- dictatorial control.

There are many `pointless' technologies in the world, such as reproductive technologies (`test tube babies') when the planet is already grossly over-populated (with humans) and car `performance' research when vehicles can already drive much too fast. That's just the intellectual obsessive insanity of our times.

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RE[2]: Freaky and Pointless
by samw on Fri 12th Dec 2008 21:58 in reply to "RE: Freaky and Pointless"
samw Member since:
2008-12-12

But the way I see it is that their is a fundermental difference between the need for the technology that is the ability to produce 'test tube' babies and this.

Test tube babies (or IVF for that matter), are wanted by a decent following of people. IVF is used by many hundreds of thousands of people per year to achieve a human goal they would otherwise be unable to reach.

However, I know very few people that would like to have their minds read. But this is where the second motive to advance technology comes in; curiosity.

Curiosity, in my opinion, will certainly not kill the metaphorical cat, that is the world - it will simply supply us with the means to do so. Effectively, it already has (given us the weaponry required)... but that's another debate.

The problem to my mind (and evidently the mind of the OP) is that this could be seriously abused. In the future, I have a rather peculiar feeling this will be viewed along with the same kind of regret that is felt over the invention of the nuclear bomb. But in my opinion, this is far worse. I'm not a religious man, so my view is as follows; once a man is dead, he cannot be put though pain any longer (death by nuclear bomb). But a living man, subjected to live in a world where all his thoughts could be intercepted, has real reason to want to die.

I just hope I never wake up and check this site and see an article named "First successful 'Mind writing'". Maybe they could port ZFS to the platform which is our brain?

Sorry if any of the above was a little incoherent, I'm in a bit of a rush.

Sam

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RE[3]: Freaky and Pointless
by raboof on Sat 13th Dec 2008 18:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Freaky and Pointless"
raboof Member since:
2005-07-24

I just hope I never wake up and check this site and see an article named "First successful 'Mind writing'".


Too late ;) . Afaics this article is `only' about reading from the visual cortex - not things like the memory.

Writing to the visual cortex (to help blind people see) has been possible for years - for example check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEHpwaUDk3U .

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RE[2]: Freaky and Pointless
by sultanqasim on Fri 12th Dec 2008 22:39 in reply to "RE: Freaky and Pointless"
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2006-10-28

I meant pointless as in it has no uses for anything good (sure, I can think of tons of evil and immoral uses though).

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RE[3]: Freaky and Pointless
by TQH ! on Sat 13th Dec 2008 10:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Freaky and Pointless"
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2006-03-16

How about helping blind seeing?

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RE[2]: Freaky and Pointless
by _xmv on Mon 15th Dec 2008 13:54 in reply to "RE: Freaky and Pointless"
_xmv Member since:
2008-12-09

what about this help us understand how the brain works.
what about this let you communicate with people in a coma

what about.. you guys are really short minded, and thinking that saying one thing that sound full of sense to you must be the strict truth and the Good/Right thing(tm)

what about.. thinking a bit deeper. that'd help humanity as a whole ;) even I am probably missing half the stuff. But i do try not to.

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