Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 12th Dec 2008 23:44 UTC, submitted by google_ninja
Windows I'm sure you're all still (sadly) familiar with the recent 'debate' I had with InfoWorld's Randall Kennedy, which detailed a lot of silly things. The seed of that discussion was planted with Kennedy's first article which, among other things, claimed that Windows 7 performed similarly to Windows Vista (meaning, slower than XP). Leaving the thread count discussion behind, Kennedy did include a benchmark which showed that Windows 7 performed similar to Windows Vista. There's a new benchmark out now, comparing a slightly more recent build of Windows 7 to Vista RTM/SP1 and XP SP3, and in these tests, Windows 7 blows all of those out of the water.
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My take
by chris_dk on Sat 13th Dec 2008 15:09 UTC
chris_dk
Member since:
2005-07-12

Windows 7 is 99% similiar to Vista.

The horrible explorer is still there.

The horrible UI elements are still there.

The taskbar is not really an improvement. For instance, you cannot open two instances of Explorer by clicking the explorer icon.
The taskbar just seems more flashy than adding any real usability benefits.

It's really just marketing with very little value.

The amount of RAM used has gone a little bit down. It reported 416 MB RAM used compared to about 700 with Vista.

Windows 7 is going to be met with more or less the same rage that Vista was because there's nothing really new in it.

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RE: My take
by Nelson on Sat 13th Dec 2008 19:26 in reply to "My take"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


The horrible explorer is still there.


Well that's a matter of opinion, but Explorer IS faster in the Windows7 build I tested.

Not just a little faster, a lot faster.


The horrible UI elements are still there.


Again, a matter of opinion. Microsoft seems to be listening to the UI concerns, a lot of UI redundancy has been removed in Windows 7.


The taskbar is not really an improvement. For instance, you cannot open two instances of Explorer by clicking the explorer icon.


This is a valid point, but there is a current workaround.

You must open Explorer, navigate to the location you wish, then use the Explorer Jump list to open a new instance of Explorer.

It's not very intuitive and I hope it changes. The jumplist should have the ability to spawn new instances, I know other jumplists do.


The taskbar just seems more flashy than adding any real usability benefits.


I find it very usable. Aero Peek to me, is very functional, and comparable in usefulness to Expose.

Not just Aero Peek, but the fact that it's so well integrated into the Thumbnails which makes it really functional.

I'm curious, what parts specifically did you have issues with?


It's really just marketing with very little value.


I don't think so at all.


The amount of RAM used has gone a little bit down. It reported 416 MB RAM used compared to about 700 with Vista.


That's little? That's almost two times less than Vista.


Windows 7 is going to be met with more or less the same rage that Vista was because there's nothing really new in it.


There's not really supposed to be, it's a refinement of the foundation that Windows Vista built. It's succeeding in that regard because it IS measurably faster than Vista.

Windows 7 is also Pre-Beta as of now, so passing any definitive judgment (in any direction, for or against) is not very smart.

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RE[2]: My take
by chris_dk on Sat 13th Dec 2008 19:52 in reply to "RE: My take"
chris_dk Member since:
2005-07-12


Windows 7 is also Pre-Beta as of now, so passing any definitive judgment (in any direction, for or against) is not very smart.


Do you really think that the Windows 7 beta will change much from now until january when it is supposed to come out?

I am so happy that for every day that goes by the choices of other OS'es are going up and the lock-in of Windows is getting smaller.

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RE[2]: My take
by jbauer on Sat 13th Dec 2008 22:15 in reply to "RE: My take"
jbauer Member since:
2005-07-06


This is a valid point, but there is a current workaround.

You must open Explorer, navigate to the location you wish, then use the Explorer Jump list to open a new instance of Explorer.

It's not very intuitive and I hope it changes. The jumplist should have the ability to spawn new instances, I know other jumplists do.


I don't know... I think it actually makes sense. Why would I want to have two Explorer windows pointing to the same location? For any other app, the method to open a new instance is pretty straightforward if you have a three button mouse: just click the icon with the middle button. I find that it's in fact better than the current situation because now you have to search the app again in the start menu (unless you have the launcher in the Quick Launch).

Edited 2008-12-13 22:16 UTC

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