Linked by Amjith Ramanujam on Tue 16th Dec 2008 07:02 UTC, submitted by stonyandcher
Apple Microsoft's first-ever iPhone application is a slick photo viewer with a browsing capability that handles a large number of photos on a mobile device screen. The Seadragon mobile application is free through Apple's application store. It a product of Microsoft's Live Labs division, which focuses on developing Web-based technology and applications. Seadragon incorporates the Deep Zoom feature, which is also integrated into Silverlight 2, Microsoft's multimedia tool. It allows a user to quickly magnify a particular area of a photo, regardless of its size.
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And Apple Allowed it!?!?
by looncraz on Tue 16th Dec 2008 07:42 UTC
looncraz
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2005-07-24

Considering Apple didn't allow Opera in their store, one would expect to be surprised Apple allowed Microsoft products at all...

BUT of course they would! Apple is alive today because of a pact with Microsoft - Apple doesn't allow their software to run on normal x86 computers, and Microsoft allows them to live - and ported Office to MacOS, thereby throwing Apple a bone.

Of course, these days, Apple could get smart and prepare to battle the giant - virtually any action on Microsoft's part could be turned into a valid anti-trust case. Not to mention that the current economic environment would certainly play a positive role...

Oh well, it is still very nice to see competitors working together - now only if Apple would allow directly competing apps ( such as the browser ) it might become rather interesting.

Still, though, I only see a cell-phone as a portable phone w/ a simple calculator, calendar, address book, & alarm clock :-) I guess I'm just old school now, at the ripe old age of 27, heh.

--The loon

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RE: And Apple Allowed it!?!?
by REM2000 on Tue 16th Dec 2008 08:37 in reply to "And Apple Allowed it!?!?"
REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

I think that story of Opera and Apple was inflated by the blogs and media, if i remember correctly Opera didn't submit the app to the app store. However even if they did, apple doesn't like products that compete with their existing apps on the iPhone.

Seadragon doesn't compete with any apple products so it was allowed on.

The actual app is really good, although the explanation doesn't make it sound that way. To be able to view images in terms of Gigapixels is amazing, amazing still that you can do it on a portable device.

It works alittle like google earth but for pictures, it's a very impressive technology.

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RE: And Apple Allowed it!?!?
by Moredhas on Tue 16th Dec 2008 09:16 in reply to "And Apple Allowed it!?!?"
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2008-04-10

Microsoft Office, strangely enough, was on Apple computers before it was running on Windows. Apple may be alive today because of the pact, but if memory serves, it was a ten year long pact that started in 1997.

I'm honestly more surprised they didn't can this because it reproduces existing iPhone functionality. I don't have an iPhone, so I can't compare this feature list to the in built photo viewer's, but I'd think Microsoft's app packing more features would be an even better reason to not allow it.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Apple may be alive today because of the pact, but if memory serves, it was a ten year long pact that started in 1997.


Office, as a suite, was indeed released for Mac before it was released for Windows but it wasn't in 1997. Office 1 for Mac was released in 1990.
It's important to note though that all the individual components (Word, Excel etc) was all available on Windows before Mac.

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RE[2]: And Apple Allowed it!?!?
by gfolkert on Tue 16th Dec 2008 12:27 in reply to "RE: And Apple Allowed it!?!?"
gfolkert Member since:
2008-12-15

blah, even I got it wrong.

Edited 2008-12-16 12:28 UTC

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RE: And Apple Allowed it!?!?
by Laurence on Tue 16th Dec 2008 11:10 in reply to "And Apple Allowed it!?!?"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Apple is alive today because of a pact with Microsoft - Apple doesn't allow their software to run on normal x86 computers, and Microsoft allows them to live


Safari? iTunes? Quicktime? TrueType?

Or how about their non-windows software that runs in "normal" x86 computers (CUPS for example)?

And that's just off the top of my head.

Edited 2008-12-16 11:13 UTC

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pantheraleo Member since:
2007-03-07

But keep in mind the Achilles Heel is Microsoft Office. If Microsoft drops Office for Mac, Apple dies in the enterprise. The existence of Office for Mac is the ONLY reason we even allow Macs as an option on our enterprise network. Without Office for Mac, compatibility would just be too much of a problem. No shared Exchange calendars, no appointment and meeting scheduling, etc.

So yes, in many ways Apple is very dependent on Microsoft for survival at least when they want to play in the big leagues.

Edited 2008-12-16 17:55 UTC

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RE: And Apple Allowed it!?!?
by apoclypse on Tue 16th Dec 2008 13:41 in reply to "And Apple Allowed it!?!?"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

Wow, and they modded you up too. First of all Opera was never submitted to the app store and for good reason as the developers knew that they have had issues getting the app accepted in the first place, not because they duplicate Apples efforts but because they used a runtime like environment in their app to support certain type of functionality.

There are plenty of image viewers and camera apps in the appstore so what makes you think Apple wouldn't accept this one? The app is really good but no because its MS and and its Apple, here is no merit to the technology, it must be a pact. It can't be that the app is actually good. The fact of the matter is that despite what chair-throwing Steve says about Apple, MS has always had a presence on Apple's platform. This is no different.

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RE[2]: And Apple Allowed it!?!?
by looncraz on Wed 17th Dec 2008 05:53 in reply to "RE: And Apple Allowed it!?!?"
looncraz Member since:
2005-07-24

Actually, a pact was made. A loooong time ago when the Steves & Bill were 'friends.'

Otherwise, I'm actually aware of the Java VM method decided to use, though I was not aware that they didn't actually submit the app.

In all seriousness, though, I don't see the appeal of 'smart' phones - period. E-mail & the internet are things I do when I have time to waste, otherwise I do real things most of the time.

Heh, I spend about four hours a month on my phone - a simple basic Nokia - no camera, no games, but I do have color!

Oh well.. I'm going back to my DVD project...

--The loon

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RE: And Apple Allowed it!?!?
by looncraz on Wed 17th Dec 2008 05:48 in reply to "And Apple Allowed it!?!?"
looncraz Member since:
2005-07-24

I thought that would be a conversation starter :-)

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