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RE[5]: It should feature a sweaty nerd by a photocopier...
by sbergman27 on Tue 30th Dec 2008 14:33
in reply to "RE[4]: It should feature a sweaty nerd by a photocopier..."
Linux has always been a copy of something out there. What original ‘anything’ have they ever brought to the table?
It is interesting, the way you try to direct the dialog. Without agreeing with your implication that Linux (and FOSS, in general) does not sometimes implement original ideas, as does sometimes, Microsoft, Apple, and other players... I ask you in what way is implementing good ideas which originated elsewhere a bad thing? I fear that you are just copying Microsoft's "Innovation Mania" concept. Could you not have come up with a more original attack upon Linux and FOSS?
RE[6]: It should feature a sweaty nerd by a photocopier...
by neozeed on Tue 30th Dec 2008 15:36
in reply to "RE[5]: It should feature a sweaty nerd by a photocopier..."
It is interesting, the way you try to direct the dialog. Without agreeing with your implication that Linux (and FOSS, in general) does not sometimes implement original ideas, as does sometimes, Microsoft, Apple, and other players... I ask you in what way is implementing good ideas which originated elsewhere a bad thing? I fear that you are just copying Microsoft's "Innovation Mania" concept. Could you not have come up with a more original attack upon Linux and FOSS?
Well then I could add copying them... poorly but I guess you could fire back the same part about say CP/M vs MS-DOS... VMS to NT.. well maybe more like RSX…
I think the main thing that separates them is support. I've had 0 luck with the pimply teenage crowd with Oracle, then Microsoft...
And then there is the whole cost structure associated with the teenage photo copier crowd, but of course it's Redhat, and the "solution" is to use... yet another distro.
At least MS's os offerings are not, and never will be as fragmented as the linux thing. It's a shame that Linus didn't bundle some kind of install & userland back in the day letting SLS fit the bill back then....
I think that is the worst of it, is that I've been using linux since the sls days (remember hex editing the boot floppy to use the hard disk as root????) and it still feels the same. It's just as counter intuitive then as it is now. Unlike Solaris/HPUX/AIX/.. hell even Xenix the userland has never 'fit' linux, but rather been tacked on... But yes I know it's because the GNU tools arose in a vacuum with no kernel to fulfill it's environment.
It would have been nice had the 'lsb' thing worked, or if even Linus would say just freaking provide *SOME* consistent way of doing things...
But I know I'm dreaming.
I guess this is why HURD failed and why the photocopier worked. While the FSF was trying to innovate, they never shipped anything workable. Sure they made the most portable assembler, linker & c compiler ever but even cloning the v7 kernel seemed ‘beneath’ them and out of reach for the users….
Kind of funny then, if anything it shows the triumph of the photocopier and the failure of the FSF to be… unique.
By the way the sweaty nerd with the photocopier can be found here:
http://www.amazon.com/Lions-Commentary-Unix-John/dp/1573980137





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And...?
Linux has always been a copy of something out there. What original ‘anything’ have they ever brought to the table?
They cannot even promote themselves in an original manner.
Besides it’ll turn into yet another xyz destroy is better then zzy yet both are based on abc. Zzz.