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At this year's 25th Chaos Communication Congress, an annual four day conference with the slogan "Nothing to hide" reveals everything about the Commodore 64, in 64 minutes. Across 256 slides. The video is now available to download via BitTorrent or FTP. The Commodore 64 is the greatest selling computer of all time; learn how it got there with its quirky hardware, loved by hackers worldwide.

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RE: MSX was better

by jrash on Thu 1st Jan 2009 01:44 UTC in reply to "MSX was better"

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2008-10-28

The MSX was a good idea ahead of its time, but IMHO the VIC and SID chips were much better than the MSX offering, scrolling on the MSX was painful, and while the vernerable AY-3-8910 was a good sound chip, SID was king. I agree 100% on C64 BASIC though, it was horrible, even the Commodore PET had a better basic.

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RE[2]: MSX was better

by sonic2000gr on Thu 1st Jan 2009 09:39 in reply to "RE: MSX was better"

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2007-05-20

Anyone remember Simon's BASIC cartridge for the 64? I still have both this and the 64 around. Awesome.

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RE[3]: MSX was better

by Zbigniew on Thu 1st Jan 2009 21:31 in reply to "RE[2]: MSX was better"

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2008-08-28

And did you know Paradoxon Basic? It gave many add-ons similar to those offered by Simon's Basic, while leaving, at the same time, for BASIC programs more than 60 KB free memory...

It was free, published as machine-code listing in german "64'er" magazine.

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RE[2]: MSX was better

by bousozoku on Fri 2nd Jan 2009 00:27 in reply to "RE: MSX was better"

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I agree 100% on C64 BASIC though, it was horrible, even the Commodore PET had a better basic.

You're right about the Texas Instruments graphics processor the original MSX systems used. My Sony HB-201 is incredibly underpowered where graphics are concerned. The MSX2 machines were better off with the higher resolution processors.

I'm not sure you could consider any of Commodore's system software, including their BASIC interpreter, good, but some were worse than others though the Apple II/+/c/e software was rather bizarre as well. Most companies were making it up as they went along, so it's understandable.

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