Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Jan 2009 07:16 UTC
Windows Even though the Windows 7 beta had been available on piracy networks for a while now, it still hadn't been officially released. During his pre-show keynote at CES, Steve Ballmer officially launched the Windows 7 beta onto the world via TechNet, MSDN, and Connect. It will become available to the general public this Friday.
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I wouldn't want Microsoft to sue KDE, if KDE had borrowed an interface idea from windows. More than just the monopolistic arguments, I don't think things should be patentable.

You have it round the wrong way there. The UI on Win7 is a copy of KDE.

But then, for years people have said KDE is a copy of Windows lol

Microsoft cannot sue "KDE" as it is not one entity, but a conglomeration of hundreds, maybe thousands, of developers the world over.

Now on the other hand, it would also be disgusting if any KDE developer sues Microsoft over it.

A good interface is a good interface, ie, most vcr's, cd players, dvd players have play/pause, stop, fwd and rew... does anyone try to patent them ?

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:

You have it round the wrong way there. The UI on Win7 is a copy of KDE.

Oh here we go again... The copying game...


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Lazarus Member since:

I think you were giving people too much credit.

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apoclypse Member since:

Well you guys have to kind of admit that KDE4 initially looked a bit like Vista. Sure they did their own thing which is the point some are making here. All desktop UI's borrow from each other, the one that popularized the paradigms we use today (MacOS) borrowed from somewhere else, the original PARC developers borrowed from somwhere else as well, from real world concepts, to UIfied version of utilities that had been around for years.

A great a example is the new device from Palm (Pre). On the surface it looks like the iPhone OS, however on better inspection you see some pretty nifty concepts that they did, but still use a lot of the conventions that Apple introduced. They were clearly influenced by Apple (as have most phone makers) but they took the idea and ran with it, from what I see they didn't just make a clone.

KDE4 borrowed just as heavily from Vista,the windows previews feature is something that has been around in Vista since the betas. The dark glass theme is something that Vista had well before KDE4. KDE4 had expose from OSX. The integrated search function in the kickoff menu, I can go on and on. Gnome has borrowed heavily from MacOS and MS for example, yet I've seen things in Nautilus that were there way before Explorer in Vista had them. That is how the UI has evolved to the point its at now, newer and newer innovations are added on top of what came before. Its a good thing.

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chris_dk Member since:

I think the main problem people have with Microsoft copying KDE and Gnome is that Linux has low marketshare and "normal" people think that Microsoft invented these new things.

When they come to Linux, they say "Oh, it's just like Windows 7!" We geeks know it is not like that, but "normal" people don't.

So it has something to do with fairness.

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