Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Jan 2009 07:16 UTC
Windows Even though the Windows 7 beta had been available on piracy networks for a while now, it still hadn't been officially released. During his pre-show keynote at CES, Steve Ballmer officially launched the Windows 7 beta onto the world via TechNet, MSDN, and Connect. It will become available to the general public this Friday.
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by spackie on Thu 8th Jan 2009 21:04 UTC
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2007-08-15

Unfortunately Windows 7 looks like Windows Vista, uses the same Windows Explorer UI (Windows XP Explorer is far more easier on the eyes) and of course no "classic" UI which IMO was perfect in Windows 2000 Professional. Its all downhill from here folks. Its a case of Microsoft trying to hard and delivering a crap GUI that causes eye problems due to excessive GUI candy.

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RE: Windows
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 8th Jan 2009 21:09 in reply to "Windows"
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2005-06-29

Unfortunately Windows 7 looks like Windows Vista, uses the same Windows Explorer UI


?

Explorer in 7 has a new interface compared to Vista.

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RE: Windows
by Ultimatebadass on Thu 8th Jan 2009 21:22 in reply to "Windows"
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I like the new explorer and vista ui. The "classic" UI had it's moments back in 1999 - what the hell is wrong with delivering something that is pleasing to the eye? Really, with that quad core, 4+gb of ram and whatnot I can spare a couple of cpu cycles for the interface to not look like it's still 1990. And about Windows XP (default) being easy on the eyes... first thing I ever did after installing XP on any of my computers was to change the default theme to something else. I have Vista on my home PC for as long as it has been there and never felt the need to do the same - i guess they did something right this time around ;)

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RE[2]: Windows
by renhoek on Sat 10th Jan 2009 13:25 in reply to "RE: Windows"
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2007-04-29

The "classic" UI had it's moments back in 1999 - what the hell is wrong with delivering something that is pleasing to the eye?


And my retro terminal interface had it's moments in the '70. And i still use it today, it works just fine. When do people who build interfaces start to realize that the most important thing is usability, not looks or features.

And there is nothing wrong with pleasing the eye (i use the osx-candybar-shiny-button computer myself), but it should never be a major goal. usability comes first. Never mind how good something looks, if i can't use it it's useless.

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RE[2]: Windows
by Glynser on Mon 12th Jan 2009 08:11 in reply to "RE: Windows"
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2007-11-29

"pleasing to the eye"

In my opinion, the classic GUIs have the advantage of being very neutral. There are grey, rectangular buttons, and grey, rectangular windows, so it can't be really "ugly". It's just not "pretty". But it doesn't get in your way, and that's why I like it.

Now, if you have something like the default XP theme or the Vista theme, it's already a matter of taste - because it's "designed" and it can't be pleasing to EVERY eye, of course. But the classic, neutral style should at least not bother anybody (though I know it does), because it's just the bare essentials without trying to be "cool" or "designed".

That's why I think there should be always the possibility to have a classic, stripped down, neutral design. And I'd wish that Microsoft would still keep up the classic style, but also hardware-accelerated (so that there won't be any redraw problems etc). But I doubt they will do that.

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RE: Windows
by pixel8r on Fri 9th Jan 2009 03:18 in reply to "Windows"
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2007-08-11

Unfortunately Windows 7 looks like Windows Vista, uses the same Windows Explorer UI (Windows XP Explorer is far more easier on the eyes) and of course no "classic" UI which IMO was perfect in Windows 2000 Professional. Its all downhill from here folks. Its a case of Microsoft trying to hard and delivering a crap GUI that causes eye problems due to excessive GUI candy.


not to side with MS on this one, but your last bit about the gui causing eye problems due to excessive eye-candy - do you have any evidence of this?

I much prefer the newer eye-candy filled desktops (particularly kde4) to what we used to have. Sure, in some ways things may be a little slower but the eye candy gives me a richer and happier experience.

Those that dont like it can still easily turn it off ;)

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