Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 11th Jan 2009 23:31 UTC
Windows People who work for for-profit companies, especially large ones, are always a bit uninteresting to interview, with media training and marketing instructions taking out all the sharp edges. CNet interviewed Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, and they got some very interesting quotes from the love-him-or-hate-him CEO.
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RE: Comment by moleskine
by re_re on Mon 12th Jan 2009 07:56 UTC in reply to "Comment by moleskine"
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"I really don't see Microsoft changing much until Ballmer has been sent off to tend his garden. He can afford a rather large one. The company still seems transfixed by Google and is obsessed with dominating every market it enters. The days of domination are long, long gone and as for the Google thang, what this really suggests is that Microsoft has yet to find a skin in which it can feel comfortable. As a company it still doesn't seem to know who or what it is now the glory days of the 1990s are fading."

ok .... think about it, .. If you were running a company would you not want to dominate your market?

I swear, you socialist morons need to read some Ayn Rand.

and this from somebody who does not like microsoft.. but I am a capitalist and understand the principals behind free markets.

Edited 2009-01-12 07:58 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by moleskine
by segedunum on Mon 12th Jan 2009 11:41 in reply to "RE: Comment by moleskine"
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2005-07-06

ok .... think about it, .. If you were running a company would you not want to dominate your market?

There's a difference between wanting to work towards that goal and assuming that you are entitled to it because of the easy cash cows you have been living off for twenty years.

I swear, you socialist morons need to read some Ayn Rand.

I didn't see much socialism in the parent's comment, and I see we have another moron who thinks they can quote an author as having the perfect answer as many governments have even done worryingly. Ayn Rand's advice on capitalism and how to run it has proved a complete disaster in the current climate, there are elements of social interest that need to be looked after but nationalisation just leads to stagnation.

I really don't know why people look to these so-called philosophers when the world is clearly not that simple. Is socialism right? Is hands-off capitalism right? That's what people are asking now. The simple fact is that no one is right. It depends.

...and this from somebody who does not like microsoft.. but I am a capitalist and understand the principals behind free markets.

Do you?

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RE[2]: Comment by moleskine
by ichi on Mon 12th Jan 2009 14:21 in reply to "RE: Comment by moleskine"
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ok .... think about it, .. If you were running a company would you not want to dominate your market?


Wouldn't you have to draw a line and define what's your market first? MS seems to be eager to jump on everything related with IT or entertainment.

They just can't dominate everything everywhere (if they do then expect to be sued left and right).

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RE[2]: Comment by moleskine
by Soulbender on Mon 12th Jan 2009 19:06 in reply to "RE: Comment by moleskine"
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2005-08-18

If you were running a company would you not want to dominate your market?


Not necessarily. If it was my own little company perhaps i'd be pretty happy as long as it made me enough money to have a comfortable living. The majority of companies in the world aren't multinational behemots.

Edit.
Also note that wanting to dominate any number of markets is/can be bad business sense. It drains your resources away from your core business and can cost you more than you think.
Many companies has expanded wildly into different sectors only to have it bankrupt them.

I swear, you socialist morons need to read some Ayn Rand.


You capitalist morons need to read some Karl Marx.
Or just not read Ayn Rand.

but I am a capitalist and understand the principals behind free markets.


Or so you say. I dont recall the principles of free markets including that every company must strive to dominate the market. As I recall, it is about healty competion that in turn is good for consumers.

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RE[2]: Comment by moleskine
by darrelljon on Mon 12th Jan 2009 20:18 in reply to "RE: Comment by moleskine"
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2008-05-29

Microsoft obviously don't understand the principles of a free market since United States v. Microsoft (1998) when they bundled Internet Explorer unfairly restricted the market for competing web browsers.

Or EU v Microsoft (2004) about bundling Windows Media Player.

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RE[2]: Comment by moleskine
by abraxas on Tue 13th Jan 2009 22:41 in reply to "RE: Comment by moleskine"
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2005-07-07

I swear, you socialist morons need to read some Ayn Rand.


Ha. You need to read something OTHER than Ayn Rand. She has warped your little brain.

and this from somebody who does not like microsoft.. but I am a capitalist and understand the principals behind free markets.


If you really understood the principles behind free markets you would know that competition is what drives the market. Market domination doesn't help anyone but Microsoft. It doesn't facilitate better and cheaper products. It just puts money in Microsoft's pocket and stifles innovation.

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