Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 12th Jan 2009 22:51 UTC
KDE When KDE 4.0 was first released, it was met with quite some criticism. Even though people saw the huge potential, the lack of functionality and stability, as well as quite a few bugs detracted from the experience. The KDE developers continued to work on implementing their relatively radical vision, and with the release of KDE 4.2 creeping ever closer, it seems they're well on their way.
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Each release, the same old story...
by Jason Bourne on Tue 13th Jan 2009 14:58 UTC
Jason Bourne
Member since:
2007-06-02

When 4.0 came out, the hype was "this is the release". When it was completely unusable, people started saying... "just wait for 4.1, it will be the one"... 4.2 is coming, and I already get this feeling that someone at KDE just made sure to complicate more the "K Menu" adding 3 different searches engines or inserting this time an artificial intelligent auto-completion form. Each release the same old story.

There's a saying "If there are two heads, then it's a monster". It reflects well how projects coordinated by many people are. It feels like every developer wants his useless great idea inside the UI, killing all the UI consistency. That's been KDE 4 storyline since day 1.

Oxygen is one of the worst UI's around. I sincerely wanted it to be replaced, but KDE-dev is a parliament - not an enterprise pushing for market share.

And no, I won't even try 4.2.
Perhaps things will change when the majority of distros just drop KDE off as their default desktop.

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_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

keep trolling...

YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO USE OXYGEN.

there are number of different styles available...

as far as I aware the only official search in kde 4 is nepomuk and strigi...don't know where you got the idea from.

There are currently 3 menues available classic,default and lancelot...3 levels for different tastes.

what "autocompletion" form?

what is incosistent about the ui? examples?

the fact that you won't even try 4.2 says a lot about your desire or ability to provide even accurate opinions

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

When 4.0 came out, the hype was "this is the release". When it was completely unusable, people started saying... "just wait for 4.1, it will be the one"...

You'll keep saying that as each point release is made and you'll end up gradually looking more foolish as people weigh up the alternatives. Keep going.

3 different searches engines or inserting this time an artificial intelligent auto-completion form. Each release the same old story.

Where are these three search engines? Oh, and saying that certain things are unnecessary isn't going to halt the march of new features being added to software. If you're happy with your CDE equivalent then that's great. The rest of the world has already voted.

Oxygen is one of the worst UI's around. I sincerely wanted it to be replaced, but KDE-dev is a parliament - not an enterprise pushing for market share.

No, it isn't. KDE is an open source project that tries to improve with each release until most people decide that it is good enough. Every open source project is like that.

And no, I won't even try 4.2.

Great. So you're eminently qualified to comment on it then?

Perhaps things will change when the majority of distros just drop KDE off as their default desktop.

I feel terribly sorry for you, because that isn't going to happen and it won't even if some distros want it to. Many people have been trying to predict that for the last eight years. No dice.

There are those of us out there who do not want open source desktops, and desktops in the Unix world in general, to go the way CDE did against Windows 95 and the Mac by forming committees, decreeing that certain things aren't necessary and mandating immature and inadequate software as 'standards' and 'defaults'. The tide won't go back I'm afraid.

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Michael Member since:
2005-07-01

When 4.0 came out, the hype was "this is the release".

No it wasn't. Even before it came out all the KDE guys were careful to explain that 4.0 would not be ready for prime time. All the news stories about the 4.0 release went on and on about this fact. You couldn't possibly have heard about KDE 4.0 without knowing about this.

The trouble was, Ubuntu had raised the bar for OSS projects being "ready". The user base for KDE 3.0 was largely hackers. The potential user base for 4.0 included many a clueless noob brought to Linux by Ubuntu. And so, everyone got their underwear in a twist because the major release of KDE still required testing, as if this were an entirely new phenomenon in open source.

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DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

The trouble was, Ubuntu had raised the bar for OSS projects being "ready". The user base for KDE 3.0 was largely hackers. The potential user base for 4.0 included many a clueless noob brought to Linux by Ubuntu. And so, everyone got their underwear in a twist because the major release of KDE still required testing, as if this were an entirely new phenomenon in open source.


Man, I couldn't have said it any better...

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