Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 12:04 UTC
Legal Remember when Steve Jobs launched the iPhone, and held it up in the air, proudly proclaiming "Boy, have we patented it", followed by a massive applause of the adoring audience? It may seem like this wasn't just an empty claim, either. During the earnings conference call yesterday, the company hinted at possible legal action against Palm were the Pre to infringe on iPhone patents.
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RE: This just goes to show
by Adurbe on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 13:15 UTC in reply to "This just goes to show"
Adurbe
Member since:
2005-07-06

Trevor Baylis invented (and patented) the clockwork radio

the radio was already invented, as was the winding mechanism

the 'invention' was still his to patent as he proposed a new way of using those technoligies together

If you belive the clockwork radio should be able to hold a patent then so should the multi-touch interface (existing technologies proposed to be used in a new 'invoative' way)

also prior art is very important part of a patent application

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RE[2]: This just goes to show
by searly on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 13:36 in reply to "RE: This just goes to show"
searly Member since:
2006-02-27

And how exaclty is the iphone innovatively using the multitouch technology as supposed to earlier innovations? Zooming in and out of image/maps etc has been done before, putting it on a smaller device is hardly innovative ...

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RE[3]: This just goes to show
by Adurbe on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 14:09 in reply to "RE[2]: This just goes to show"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

And how exaclty is the iphone innovatively using the multitouch technology as supposed to earlier innovations? Zooming in and out of image/maps etc has been done before, putting it on a smaller device is hardly innovative ...


the manner in which you pinch (or un-pinch?) on the screen for example, as far as im aware, that was not used in the same way before. Do you have an example where it has been?

As detailed in my example, the clockwork radio clearly indicated, you dont need to invent all the bits for it to be patented. You need only use the technology in a new way

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RE[2]: This just goes to show
by Beta on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 16:53 in reply to "RE: This just goes to show"
Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

Trevor Baylis invented (and patented) the clockwork radio.

the radio was already invented, as was the winding mechanism.

the 'invention' was still his to patent as he proposed a new way of using those technoligies together


His ‘invention’ was a better method of producing energy from winding. That is the only thing that his patent should be able to cover.

If you invent another method for doing the same thing, it’s a new invention and not covered…

At least, that’s the original intention of patents ;)

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RE[3]: This just goes to show
by bnolsen on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 19:34 in reply to "RE[2]: This just goes to show"
bnolsen Member since:
2006-01-06

There's also the little bit about there being actual hardware schematics to precisely describe and show what was done here.

It's very arguable that these "multi touch" patents are algorithm only.

Why should touchpad manufacturers be punished by apple choosing to limit how their touchpads are used? Where's the innovation in that?

And how would a company be motivated to manufacture *anything* if some other company can patent how the device is used and lock out their potential customer base?

Edited 2009-01-22 19:40 UTC

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