Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 12:04 UTC
Legal Remember when Steve Jobs launched the iPhone, and held it up in the air, proudly proclaiming "Boy, have we patented it", followed by a massive applause of the adoring audience? It may seem like this wasn't just an empty claim, either. During the earnings conference call yesterday, the company hinted at possible legal action against Palm were the Pre to infringe on iPhone patents.
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RE[7]: This just goes to show
by lurch_mojoff on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 15:48 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: This just goes to show"
lurch_mojoff
Member since:
2007-05-12

How is "pinching", or even a camera tracking your eye movements, obvious? Especially "pinching" - give me one example of an object that you can you can increase in size or scale through the pinching motion.

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RE[8]: This just goes to show
by Adurbe on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 15:55 in reply to "RE[7]: This just goes to show"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

blue-tack! :-)

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lurch_mojoff Member since:
2007-05-12

OK, I stand corrected. I guess if you lift a freshly printed map from a sheet of paper with a lump of blue-tack you *can* use the "pinch" to zoom in/out. :-)

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RE[8]: This just goes to show
by spiderman on Thu 22nd Jan 2009 15:58 in reply to "RE[7]: This just goes to show"
spiderman Member since:
2008-10-23

It is obvious to me. I'm talking about the idea, not the implementation. It is hard to code this idea in software and I'm certainly not capable of it. But their code is their copyright. The idea is a patent. Eye tracking software is obvious, many people have been trying to do it since 20 or 30 years. It is hard to translate in computer code, but the idea is widely documented in the net and is obvious to several people who work in the accessibility area. When you see someone who has sclerosis and who can't move any part of his body but the eye, and you are working in the software industry, your first idea is: "we should track the eye and translate it into mouse movement". To me and to several people this is obvious. Pinching is equaly obvious to me and to several people.

The hard part is the actual implementation. And maybe that would be patentable, but not a patent like 'using artificial neural network and haar-like features, we could track eye movements', this is the obvious way to do it, but it is hard. An inovative way would maybe be patentable, but seriously, 'pinching', you've got to be kidding! This is far from Einstein discoveries.

Edited 2009-01-22 16:04 UTC

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RE[9]: This just goes to show
by Drone on Fri 23rd Jan 2009 20:00 in reply to "RE[8]: This just goes to show"
Drone Member since:
2009-01-22

Well, if someone implements something obvious they can enjoy by it's fruits. But why others should be denied at this point from implementing same obvious idea as well? This is really moron. Of course they could be restricted in sense that their implementation should not be just a dumb 1 to 1 copy but not more than that.

If someone has invented something really unique, that's fair if inventor will be rewarded for such unique invention. If someone just grabbed obvious idea and abused laws to stop competitors from doing the same it looks just like abuse of laws to prevent fair competition and nothing more than that. This really sucks and slows down innovations because even if you invented something on your own without ever looking on alternate implementations, you can still got sued by people like Apple and by similar patent trolls. Furthermore, some companies are even turned into parasites by patenting each and every idea floating in the air just to sue someone some years later when someone manages to implement idea successfully and will gain some reward. Then patent troll appears and requires to pay. That how it happens on REGULAR basis. Patent system MUST be reworked to reward truly unique inventors only and stop patent trolling.

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