Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 24th Jan 2009 10:58 UTC
Linux Ever year, Linus Torvalds goes on vacation to Australia, during which he usually also visits linux.conf.au. During his stay this year he gave an interview to ComputerWorld, in which he talked about the success of point releases and the important topic of file systems in Linux, which is quite an active field today with ext4 and Btrfs. He also gave some insights into why he switched away from KDE, moving to GNOME instead, and he shares his thoughts on Windows 7.
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RE[5]: kde3
by segedunum on Sat 24th Jan 2009 20:49 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: kde3"
segedunum
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2005-07-06

I talked to a Fedora package maintainer. He said, that they got wrong information from the KDE project previously to the 4.0 release. They got told that 4.0 will be a real final release. However, when they got told that 4.0 wasn't meant for endusers it was to late.

That's absolute crap as per usual when Fedora/Red Hat does anything KDE related. Any distributor with half a brain would have kept KDE 3.x in as the default (Suse managed it) and then monitored the desktop as it moved along as to when the best time would be to switch the default version. Regardless of what they were told, you don't switch a major desktop version like than and I'll bet that they will never do it where Gnome 2 -> Gnome 3 is concerned. If we ever get to see Gnome 3.

Just like with Ubuntu and the LTS version, KDE 4.0 was used as a rod for KDE's back even when KDE developers had reiterated time and again that 3.x would continued to be maintained and point releases would still be made.

It was short before the 4.0 release and Fedora had KDE 3 already replaced (KDE 3 and KDE 4 cannot be both installed because of conflicts).

Rubbish. Suse managed it.

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RE[6]: kde3
by h3rman on Sat 24th Jan 2009 21:28 in reply to "RE[5]: kde3"
h3rman Member since:
2006-08-09

There's a difference between, can KDE 3 and KDE 4 be installed on the same system at the same time, or, can a distribution offer both KDE 3 and 4 in one release? Obviously, the latter is true, but is the former too? (Idunno)

The reason that Fedora dropped KDE3 is that they often just want to move on to the latest and greatest, even if that's not always the most glitch-free option. They're probably reasoning, if you want to stick to KDE3 for the moment, why upgrade your existing Fedora system.

That's the choice they made; as a Gnome user, I think KDE 4 on Fedora 10 is very promising, feels snappy and solid, and it's already quite usable unless you can't stand a few glitches here and there. It would be completely un-Fedora to keep supporting KDE 3 even in Fedora 10.

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RE[7]: kde3
by segedunum on Sat 24th Jan 2009 23:34 in reply to "RE[6]: kde3"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

There's a difference between, can KDE 3 and KDE 4 be installed on the same system at the same time, or, can a distribution offer both KDE 3 and 4 in one release? Obviously, the latter is true, but is the former too? (Idunno)

Yes, it is possible. Suse managed it and had KDE 3 and KDE 4 apps running fine side-by-side. It defaulted to KDE 3.x and offered KDE 4 as an option. That will most likely change with 4.2.

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