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RE[6]: Seems like a reasonable patent
by Moochman on Sun 25th Jan 2009 05:39
in reply to "RE[5]: Seems like a reasonable patent"
No one is claiming that any one individual behavior is revolutionary..... Ever heard the phrase "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts"?
Obviously you're not going to be won over as you have too much anti-Apple bias. Whatever. No other smartphone delivered the same level of user experience at the time the iPhone came out. This may seem like a subjective opinion, but it is the main reason the iPhone is so successful and all touch phones that came before it were such duds.
RE[7]: Seems like a reasonable patent
by tupp on Sun 25th Jan 2009 07:35
in reply to "RE[6]: Seems like a reasonable patent"
No one is claiming that any one individual behavior is revolutionary..... Ever heard the phrase "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts"?
Ever heard of the phrase, "huh?"
You listed ten Iphone features, and then you claimed: "These were all firsts with the iPhone."
I pointed out that eight of those features appeared first on non-Apple products. I questioned the benefits of one of the features that might have originated with Apple. In regards to the other one, I said that I am not familiar with that feature, but I that it sounds generic.
You also claimed: "The iPhone is a usability tour de force..." Disregarding the Iphone's lack of tactile feedback, I mentioned just two of the Iphone's rather significant usability drawbacks.
Obviously you're not going to be won over as you have too much anti-Apple bias.
Whether or not I have a bias has nothing to do with the fact that Apple did not invent most of the Iphone features (as demonstrated above).
By the way, I do not have an anti-Apple bias. I do have an "anti Apple-fanboy" bias, especially when a fanboys ignore the facts presented.





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Okay. So you admit that Apple did not invent the multi-touch phone. We are making progress.
Other fanboys: Did you get that? Please never again claim nor imply that Apple invented the multi-touch phone. Thanks!
This feature could have originated with Apple, and it is certainly an interesting animation (like wobbly windows, and the rotating cube), but does it actually add anything to the usability of the device?
Are you implying that Apple invented opening app feedback?
Apple did not invent auto-rotate. That feature appeared on digital cameras years before the Iphone. Heck, I remember auto-rotating computer monitors in the late 1980s.
Apple did not invent this feature. This problem has been solved in different ways since the first fully touch-screen phone appeared in 1992.
Here is a 2003, Nokia patent application for locking the touch-screen on a phone during an active call: http://www.patentstorm.us/applications/20050079896/fulltext.html
Don't know to what you are referring, but it certainly sounds generic.
Over the years, there has been a lot of non-Apple research into this problem. Probably, the best solution is to just make the buttons bigger with a horizontal keyboard.
I doubt that the Iphone is the first hand-held device to display web pages in such a manner. Even if it were so, how innovative is it to merely copy what we have seen on our computers every day since 1993?
In regards to multi-touch, pinch scaling, that was first shown in 1991 in the Digital Desk system.
You really think Apple invented these?
My friend tried visual voice mail on one of my messages, and he called back, asking, "what did you mean by 'eat up Martha?'"
Whatever.
Yes. The lack of cut-and-paste is an usability triumph.
Furthermore, it is an ergonomic breakthrough to have to tap nine times through the alternate keypad to merely create an ellipsis (...).