Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 26th Jan 2009 11:56 UTC
Internet & Networking Earlier this month, news got out that the European Commission is charging Microsoft with unlawful competition regarding its bundling of the Internet Explorer web bowser with Windows. At the time, information was scarce, but thanks to Microsoft's quarterly filing at the Securities and Exchange Commission. we now have a little more insight into what the EU might force Microsoft to do.
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by poundsmack on Mon 26th Jan 2009 23:27 UTC
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this is the kind of thinking that needs to stop! companies souldn't be forced to provide an alternative to their own software just because users might not know that their are other options with makes for an "unfair advantage." This practice only enchourages users to continue to be lazy and uneducated.

what should happen is have information proveded to the user to let them know there are infact alterntives and if they want they can look into and learn about it.

Now I understand compnaies getting upset that IE is bundled with windows, but the fact of the matter is it's all about how you market your product. if you want it included, start making deals with OEM's. Who else got a computer 6 years ago that came with Netscape as well as IE (raises hand) anyone else? (lots of hands go up).

so you see, the government should not be fighting the battles that the corporations should be fighting. and it certainly shouldnt force a company to leave out or make offer an alternative due to "users being unaware of alternatives." If i buy a car (and i did just get a new Nissan Altima coupe) it is my job as the one purchasing the car to research it before buying it and compair it to others in its market sector. it would be like having the goverment make the Nissan dealership also have honda accords on the lot.

"The statement of objections seeks to impose a remedy that is different than the remedy imposed in the earlier proceeding concerning Windows Media Player. While computer users and OEMs are already free to run any Web browsing software on Windows, the Commission is considering ordering Microsoft and OEMs to obligate users to choose a particular browser when setting up a new PC"
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this is only going ot cause more problems and bloat. If the EOM's have comprehensive education about hte browser selection then thats good. any the problem with this is that you can't just copy the company that makes the broswer's info about it, as in most cases it is clearly bias information or propaganda. every company that makes a browser will give its strong ponts and claim superiority (hint: most already do). so then you need unbias comparisons and data. and who will have to pay for these comparisons and research? will the EU make Microsoft? or make the OEM's?, the sad part is that with all of these agencies willing to fight peoples or companies batles for them, it just encourages a culture of lazyness that in turn breeds stupidity...

(to frustereated to spell check, sound it out)

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by lemur2 on Tue 27th Jan 2009 03:03 in reply to "ugg"
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companies souldn't be forced to provide an alternative to their own software just because users might not know that their are other options with makes for an "unfair advantage."

Fair enough.

If Microsoft were to make IE un-installable, or alternatively at least make it standards-compliant and not "extended", then what you suggest would then become an acceptable alternative to forcing Microsoft to offer a choice.

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