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...stupidity
by on Wed 21st Sep 2005 15:22 UTC

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> * cue the Ubuntu/SuSE/FC/etc. fanboys saying
> "______ worked for me"

Are you saying it didn't? Don't be a tool.

BTW, most people can't install Windows for the life of them. Windows comes pre-installed on most people's computers... if your average computer newbies were forced to install it themselves, like most people do Linux, they'd just as, or even more, lost.

Don't drink the kool-aid.

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by Tom K on Wed 21st Sep 2005 15:26 in reply to "...stupidity"
RE[2]: ...stupidity
by Phil on Wed 21st Sep 2005 15:39 in reply to "RE: ...stupidity"
Phil Member since:
2005-07-06

"Find me a Linux distro that works with ..."

How about we just drop this? After all, I can say exactly the opposite to you, Ubuntu works straight off for me, whilst XP makes me download drivers for both my sound and graphics, plus it doesn't even install firefox (!).

What does this prove? Precisely the same as your example: nothing.

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RE[2]: ...stupidity
by on Wed 21st Sep 2005 15:48 in reply to "RE: ...stupidity"
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I'm not certain you realize the double standard you just demonstrated? "Out of the box" for most people means someone else did all the work. e.g. buying a pre-built computer or the 'box' has all the drivers and setup for the hardware.

But in your Windows example you had to get the manufacturers drivers for some of the hardware. e.g web site, or on a CD. That's not what most mean by an "Out of the box" experience (Maybe several boxes? One for the OS. One for the video driver. One for the sound, etc.). Plus you ended up "tweaking a few things".

As another poster pointed out. If you purchased your computer the same way most Windows users purchase a computer. Your "out of the box" experience would be the same.

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RE[2]: ...stupidity
by Clinton on Wed 21st Sep 2005 16:00 in reply to "RE: ...stupidity"
Clinton Member since:
2005-07-05

SATA RAID? Whew! Let me get up off the floor. I fell off my chair you made me laugh so hard.

I bought an AMD64 computer with three SATA drives not too long ago. My brother bought the exact same machine at the same time. I installed Linux on mine and he tried to install Windows.

I was up and running in less than an hour. Linux detected my SATA drive "out of the box".

On the other hand. My brother was unable to install Windows because the SATA driver that shipped with the motherboard was on a CD, but Windows only supports additional drivers during the install if they are on a floppy drive.

Guess what, nobody buys floppy drives anymore. At least not until they try to install Windows on a machine with a SATA drive and their drivers only come on CD.

Bottom line: Linux supports SATA out of the box. Windows supports SATA out of the box after you drive back to the store to buy a floppy drive and then drive over to your brother's house to ask him to copy drivers off of a CD onto a floppy so you can install Windows XP.

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RE[2]: ...stupidity
by on Wed 21st Sep 2005 16:20 in reply to "RE: ...stupidity"
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"linux is poo" is back! I missed your dumbass comments. Keep up the great trolling.

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RE: ...stupidity
by CaptainPinko on Wed 21st Sep 2005 16:34 in reply to "...stupidity"
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2005-07-21

BTW, most people can't install Windows for the life of them.

Sorry, I don't believe that. Really, I don't. I rebuilt a computer for a friend who doesn't really know jack about computersand finds tabs too complicated to use. However, before I got around to bringing my XP disc to her house (hers was scratched) she had got one from a friend and just decided to try it herself and it worked. Really, installing XP is not difficult at all even for someone who doesn't know what they are doing.

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by zlynx on Thu 22nd Sep 2005 16:09 in reply to "...stupidity"
zlynx Member since:
2005-07-20

f your average computer newbies were forced to install it themselves, like most people do Linux, they'd just as, or even more, lost.

No kidding! I have been using Windows x64 and it's as bad as Linux ever was. I've had to do things like recompile .msi installers, find exactly the right versions of Java and Eclipse, and use beta .NET frameworks.

Also weird issues with the motherboard drivers and things like needing to remove the firewall software before 3dmark05 can complete.

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