Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 27th Jan 2009 13:46 UTC
Editorial With Windows 7 having made its grand debut, and with KDE4's vision making leaps and bounds forward with every release, we have two major software projects that have decided to implement some fairly drastic interface changes. Such changes are bound to receive some harsh criticisms - but the funny thing is, these criticisms usually come from people you least expect it from.
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RE[3]: SJVN is a raging idiot
by phoenix on Tue 27th Jan 2009 19:05 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: SJVN is a raging idiot"
phoenix
Member since:
2005-07-11

Thats funny, I find the exact opposite. Everything is in the menu, and every menu item has the key combo beside it. I think its a great way to provide both a discoverable and intuitive interface, and an expert friendly interface at the same time.


Okay, so how do you rename a file/folder in the Finder, without knowing the magic keyboard combination to do so? There's no "Rename" option in any of the menues, there's no context menu for those using 1-button mice, and it's really finicky about the "2 clicks with pause in between" making the name editable or starting the app.

MacOS X does a lot of things around keyboard shortcuts right, as a lot of them are global; and standard combos work in just about all apps. But not everything is documented, and not every combo has a menu or mouse equivalent.

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RE[4]: SJVN is a raging idiot
by jcgf on Tue 27th Jan 2009 20:37 in reply to "RE[3]: SJVN is a raging idiot"
jcgf Member since:
2005-11-14

To rename in finder, select the file/folder and hit the enter key.

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RE[5]: SJVN is a raging idiot
by stooovie on Wed 28th Jan 2009 00:43 in reply to "RE[4]: SJVN is a raging idiot"
stooovie Member since:
2006-01-25

That`s hardly a logical thing to do. Enter is meant to LAUNCH things. I gto eventually used to this on my Mac, but at first, I was rather angry.

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RE[5]: SJVN is a raging idiot
by phoenix on Wed 28th Jan 2009 03:17 in reply to "RE[4]: SJVN is a raging idiot"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

To rename in finder, select the file/folder and hit the enter key.


And ... that is documented where in the interface? Which is the point that is being made.

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RE[5]: SJVN is a raging idiot
by Temcat on Sat 31st Jan 2009 10:17 in reply to "RE[4]: SJVN is a raging idiot"
Temcat Member since:
2005-10-18

Which illustrates the point. How do I know that I should hit Enter?

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RE[4]: SJVN is a raging idiot
by csixty4 on Thu 29th Jan 2009 14:08 in reply to "RE[3]: SJVN is a raging idiot"
csixty4 Member since:
2007-10-08

File -> Get Info -> Name & Extension

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RE[5]: SJVN is a raging idiot
by Temcat on Sat 31st Jan 2009 10:16 in reply to "RE[4]: SJVN is a raging idiot"
Temcat Member since:
2005-10-18

Now that's intuitive, isn't it. Because setting and getting is exactly the same thing.

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