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In the News Since it's nigh on impossible to produce accurate figures of operating system usage, we have to make do with figures that provide a rough estimate, at best. One such set of statistics are the figures from Net Applications, which tracks the 160 million monthly visitors to its hosted websites. The latest figures from January 2009 have been published, and they show that the rise of Mac OS X continues, as well as that of the iPhone and iPod Touch. Unsurprisingly, Windows 7 did quite well too.
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RE[2]: I'll start it!!!!!!
by milles21 on Mon 2nd Feb 2009 23:49 UTC in reply to "RE: I'll start it!!!!!!"
milles21
Member since:
2006-11-08

Opensuse cannot meet all the demands, we are talking enterprise not hacks. Groupwise server, Zenworks server, edirectory server, non of these are supported on Opensuse. Opensuse offers no support for enterprises nor does it offer integration of enterprise services.

In regard to Solaris you are still missing the ease of use enterprise directory system and management capabilities. We are talking GUIi tool or web based tools that enterprises demand to train staff. Time machine was not inventive it was merely marketed with the right tools that a user could easily be trained to use.

Active directory is not inventive but provides the tools to train admins to use. Apple, and Microsoft succeed partly from being inventive the other from producing intuitive tools to allow users to manage networks.

Even Apple's OS X server can allow office admins the ability to easily teach them how to use the tools in a method that they can understand from creating users and email accounts, restarting services and creating shares. The fluidness of Linux tools, often lack of consistent documentation makes it a moving target. That was were Novell would have succeeded if the community did not start to rip them to shreds. I sometimes view the community as crabs in a barrel committed more to distros than the common Linux goal.

Edited 2009-02-02 23:51 UTC

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Whats That There Member since:
2005-09-21

It is clear from your posts that

a: you have never worked in an enterprise

b: you have never fully evaluated Linux, especially Opensuse

OSX is fine for a personal computer, or as a server for something like a youth group, but using it in a data centre ? c'mon

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RE[4]: I'll start it!!!!!!
by milles21 on Tue 3rd Feb 2009 16:11 in reply to "RE[3]: I'll start it!!!!!!"
milles21 Member since:
2006-11-08

It is clear from your posts that

a: you have never worked in an enterprise

b: you have never fully evaluated Linux, especially Opensuse

OSX is fine for a personal computer, or as a server for something like a youth group, but using it in a data centre ? c'mon



Unfortunately it is clear you are a bad judge of character because;

A: I have worked in many enterprises and continue to work in them.

B: I have not only evaluated Opensuse but contributed, as well. Also I have deployed Linux farms both Red Hat as well as SLES and frequently serve as a consultant for Solaris to Linux migrations.

However I will elaborate, why don't you educate me and show me an ENTERPRISE that is using Opensuse as the center of their environment. Directory, identity management, virtualization, email, monitoring tool not one part but in all cases. Again I said show me OpenSuse not SLES with the Novell add-ons since that is what you brought up. PLEASE show me the SOX and HIPAA organizations using Opensuse enterprise wide.

You are taking my comments and placing them in your perspective of discounting OpenSUSE when that is not the case. However center of the ENTERPRISE from a support standpoint it lacks the backing as well as the tools. Where is the competing product to Zenworks, where is the comparable Groupwise product. ( I am talking feature for feature) OpenLDAP is no edirectory, where is the identity management ENTERPRISE identity management. I suggest you brush up on ENTERPRISE tools. There is a difference between tools that can be used in an ENTERPRISE and ENTERPRISE class tools.

VirtualBOX can be used in a ENTERPRISE that does not make it VMWARE. Yes I know of Xen but I am being sarcastic.

See what you failed to realize is that I was speaking from an enterprise wide solution which Novell provides over support on their SLES platform. In fact they are the ONLY Linux vendor one with a comprehensive solution comparable to Microsoft on Linux.

I also suggest you search all my other posts here over the years and see that I have always been a Linux backer, as well as I am very proficient in Opensuse. However I am very honest in it's short comings.

Edited 2009-02-03 16:26 UTC

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