Windows Vista has never exactly been a favourite subject among company IT people. Migrating from Windows XP to Windows Vista isn't exactly a worry-free process, and machines that run Windows XP comfortably may have trouble powering Windows vista. As such, adoption of Vista has been slow. Two years after Vista's release, the OS is still struggling in the enterprise sector, according to a Forrester report.
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Member since:2005-07-06
1. It can't be the same process if you switched OS ...
2. No offense Thom , but I doubt your using a vanilla Vista system ( Ultimate is not ) nor a vanilla GNU/Linux distribution.
3. I submit that the process and result depends on many factor and that neither are absolute.
That your method of testing one working CD is flaud ( one does not represent even a decisive majority for you , where are the Fiona, Nina, Alanis & Shirley cd ? ) , but accurate in your case and that the other way happen using other CD.
4. Physical transfer using SD card is your point.
5.a) I am not sure some ISP intervention who is friendly with the DRM music industry is not at play and that Vista is not an escape goat in this case. They don't like people sharing music over the net.
B) the problem could be some GNU/Linux distribution who did not include MP3 decoder.
6. If Apple switched to DRM free music it was costing them some business and was a real problem.
A Liar is someone who don't tell the truth , the **windows** press report the same problem.
I know your a reasonnable and respectable man and will agree that calling someone a liar in this case is uncalled for.
P.S. do you accept to C.O.D ( pay for them on arrival ) on the known CD i can ship to you with the known problem ? Do you have storage facility of high capacity , I don't think your apartment is big enough ? ;-)
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Member since:2008-12-06
Same here. I've ripped thousands of songs from legally purchased CDs on Windows Vista and copied the WMA files to XP, Windows 7, and Ubuntu, and all three of them play all of the songs just fine. I don't know where you get that all music bought is automatically DRM'd. I don't completely understand this "DRM" craze that everyone is complaining about as I've never come across it in all of my media adventures (I don't own Blu-Ray nor do I purchase music from online, so perhaps that's why), but it seems like everyone complaining are having tizzy fits over nothing. Then again it seems DRM doesn't affect me, so I have no reason to be upset, but it affects others who have plenty of reason.
**shrug** I guess my point is that I ripped plenty more than just one album (about two thousand songs, actually) on Vista and played all of the songs on different systems without a fuss.
Edited 2009-02-04 00:36 UTC
Member since:2007-02-17
Maybe you have. No, I have no reason at all to doubt you ... you almost certainly have.
That doesn't mean that my anecdote is incorrect ... I have indeed have someone ask me why the songs they ripped from a CD using Vista were unplayable in an .mp3 player in their car's stereo, yet they could make perfectly playable .mp3 files using their XP desktop.
Maybe the person who asked me that question knew nothing about the dialog box shown in the article below, and what it meant ...
http://alfred.co.in/technology/vista-drm-problems-you-ought-to-know...
I certainly knew nothing about it ... because I don't use Vista.
It certainly tells us that Vista does include at least the capability to copy protect an .mp3 file as it rips it, doesn't it? ... despite the wild (and now myth-busted) claims in this thread that .mp3 files don't support DRM.
Hmmmm .... I'm wondering if some future innocuous "security update" of Vista, when it has become more ubiquitous, might re-check this setting and remove the option to un-set it from the dialog box ...
Edited 2009-02-04 03:31 UTC
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2005-06-29
Thom step 1 = using Windows Media Player in Windows 7,
Just performed the same process using Windows Vista. Again, no problems, and the . mp3 files made by Windows Vista's WMP worked just fine on my Linux machine.
So yes, a liar.