Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th Feb 2009 07:05 UTC
Apple Apple has always been about moving forward, about pressing customers to buy the latest and greatest. Product pacing has been high in Cupertino (except for the Mac Mini, obviously), and this is obviously a good thing if you're an Apple bean counter. Most Apple fans more or less accept this planned obsolescence without question, but the company may have just gone a little too far.
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So....don't Upgrade....
by tjolley on Wed 4th Feb 2009 13:57 UTC
tjolley
Member since:
2006-03-14

You purchased your machine with some version of OSX and some version of iLife and maybe purchased some version of iWork and some other apps were happy as a clam.

Did they suddenly stop working? Do they no longer function? Do they no longer do what they did before the announcement of the new shiny toys?

What? No? Everything works as it did before? Hmm...so what's the problem?

It's called progress. They want to move forward and do neat new things that only work, or only work as they desire with dual-core machines.

So if you want the new versions of various things, you need to have a dual-core processor or upgrade hardware to meet the minimum requirements.

Really I don't see the problem. Nothing is dictating that you MUST upgrade.

It's no different than the 2G-3G iPhone. I don't hear 2G iPhone owners whining that they can't use iPhone 3G features because there is different hardware requirements that their 2G phones don't meet.

It's no different than certain new game version requiring a certain type/level of graphics hardware, or processor speed, or amount of RAM, etc, etc. You don't meet the new minimum specs? Upgrade hardware or don't buy the new shiny toy. I really don't hear gamers whining..I just hear them salivating over the opportunity/excuse to upgrade 6 months after their last major upgrade.

Heck, I don't hear console gamers complaining. XBox360? What about all those poor Xbox owners who spent all that money on games and controllers..they can't use the new XBox360 games..Should MS upgrade their machines for Free? Should Sony upgrade all the PSOne and PS2 owners hardware because they can't play the new PS3 games or use the new features in the PS3 on their older hardware? Should MS or Sony requie all new games also work on the older hardware platforms because those people spent money on them? NO!

Want a dual-core Intel and only have a core-solo? Then upgrade the processor and stop whining. Almost all core-solo machines have a dual-core upgrade path.

If you own a PPC, you KNEW Apple was moving to Intel, and you should have known this day was coming.

This is no different than when Microsoft stopped supporting true DOS apps, or Microsoft stopping support of Windows 3.x apps, or Microsoft ceasing support of Windows 95 apps, or Apple stopping support of System X.X, etc, etc, etc..it's called progress.

Do you blame the manufacturer of your DVD player (if you have one) because you can't play Blu-Ray discs? It still plays DVD's fine, but you want to use the new shiny toy..and can't..but you know the new shiny toy was coming, but you purchased the DVD player anyway...but...but...but...I should Always be able to use the newest shiny toy even if my original toy wasn't designed to do it...and the manufacturer never ever directly told me my toy wouldn't be able to use the newer shiny toys coming out a few years from now..WAAAAAAAAAAA!!

Grow up. Stop complaining. Either upgrade your hardware, don't partake in this round of upgrades, or 'show 'em' and install Windows or Linux an your machine.

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RE: So....don't Upgrade....
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 4th Feb 2009 14:15 in reply to "So....don't Upgrade...."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Do you blame the manufacturer of your DVD player (if you have one) because you can't play Blu-Ray discs?


That's a technical limitation, nor an artificial one. Apple's limitations are almost always artificial. This case included.

That is completely different.

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RE[2]: So....don't Upgrade....
by godawful on Wed 4th Feb 2009 19:48 in reply to "RE: So....don't Upgrade...."
godawful Member since:
2005-06-29

Isn't it possible that the reasoning for this limitation is due to performance? I can understand not wanting certain software to run on a core solo machine if it would be detrimental to the appearance of the software. Same as running certain versions of OS X on older hardware.. there are patches which prove it is possible, but it is hardly optimal.

Some will argue that this should be left up to them to decide, but, that's just not how the apple world works, and folks who buy into it accept that.

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RE: So....don't Upgrade....
by jcgf on Wed 4th Feb 2009 14:31 in reply to "So....don't Upgrade...."
jcgf Member since:
2005-11-14

I agree. Seems the same as when people whine about the new ribbon in Office 2007.

"planned obsolescence" shout the haters

"progress" shout the fans

Everyone else just keeps doing what they were doing.

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RE: So....don't Upgrade....
by Cymro on Wed 4th Feb 2009 14:39 in reply to "So....don't Upgrade...."
Cymro Member since:
2005-07-07

You purchased your machine with some version of OSX and some version of iLife and maybe purchased some version of iWork and some other apps were happy as a clam.

Did they suddenly stop working?


What a waste of words your post was. Being able to run future software without arbitrary limitations placed on you by the manufacturer is something that you simply expect when you buy a new computer.

Since you're a fan of metaphors, it's like a buying a tower machine and finding later that the expansion slots are arbitrarily set not to work with cards newer than 2008.

If you can't take a simple feature like this for granted, then it's a big argument against buying a Mac and people are rightly annoyed.

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RE[2]: So....don't Upgrade....
by Sabon on Wed 4th Feb 2009 16:41 in reply to "RE: So....don't Upgrade...."
Sabon Member since:
2005-07-06

"Since you're a fan of metaphors, it's like a buying a tower machine and finding later that the expansion slots are arbitrarily set not to work with cards newer than 2008."

Ok, do PowerPC adapter cards with in Intel Mac machines? No. Note it was you that brought that up.

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apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

Funny you should mention that because has happened before. I didn't here to many complaint when ATI and Nvidia moved to PCI express over AGP and only gave consumers the lowest performing parts for AGP. Yes the limitation Apple puts are artificial but as it has been pointe out easily worked around, so hey don't support it out of the ox, big whoop, there are ways to get it to work if you REALLY need to learn how to play Proud Mary from John Fogerty.

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