Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Feb 2009 21:20 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Netbooks have been heralded as the foot in the door for Linux. With the launch of the earliest Eee PC models, Asus made a bold move by only offering them with Linux pre-installed; Microsoft soon responded by working with Asus to bring Windows XP to the next generation Eee PCs. Since then, Windows XP gained market share in the netbook segment rapidly, casting doubts over whether or not netbooks would really turn out to be that foot in the door. HP has today announced that its new HP Mini 1000 netbook will not be available with Linux pre-installed in Europe.
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LOL Does nobody else find this funny
by cyclops on Fri 6th Feb 2009 00:21 UTC
cyclops
Member since:
2006-03-12

I apologise for talking from a UK standpoint. Walk into any Dixons Group store and there are as many little laptops as there are full size laptops. They all run XP and they are all about £300 or the same PS3 80GB package.

XP shows me that the "netbook" name is a fallacy people want more than the net on these devices they want a computer...a user hackable device.

The Linux on these devices that I have seen although appropriate are not the same as a full blown OS. Desktop Linux is pretty similar to XP for most users.

I have never seen a side by side comparison of netbook with identical specifications showing the price difference of between XP and Linux, and continually wonder why these manufacturers hide the price of the bundling.

I find it hilarious that XP is the option of choice on a massive computing market. XP is running out of time for a variety of reasons. The question should be what will these machines upgrade to, or am I going to pick one up really cheap.

Windows 7 and XP do not allow for touchscreens X already has a surface and will run on cheaper more energy efficient chips. Microsoft has nothing in the sub £100 or even £200 hardware range that competes with this. Desktop Linux may well end up offering more for less, and the killer applications is not Desktop Linux, but the Mobile Firefox+OpenOffice that run on it. Throw in a few casual GPL games and a Movie/Music player and Microsoft cannot compete. You can see major companies like Google and Intel already preparing for this place.

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Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I have never seen a side by side comparison of netbook with identical specifications showing the price difference of between XP and Linux, and continually wonder why these manufacturers hide the price of the bundling.

Simple answer: microsoft

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Darkmage Member since:
2006-10-20

"Without Linux microsoft would never have.." What a load of bull. You mean without Snow Leopard Microsoft would never have modified windows vista. Microsoft couldn't give a crap about Linux market share right now. It's not growing at the moment at an appreciable rate. Apple is more of a threat. I use Linux every day as my desktop OS and I realise 90% of people can't use this software. Too much is broken, if you have any previous investment in windows applications too much is going to be missing/broken on your linux install.

Your mum will switch back to windows when she realises half the dirt cheapware/free cds/dvds don't work on the platform. Sure you think it's a good thing because techies hate crapware but a lot of people like that stuff. Things like that screensaver dvd bought in Africa not working are going to turn people off the platform.

Casual/hardcore gamers are pretty obvious as to why they'll jump ship. Not enough game support. It's good but still requires console to make them load. As long as people are using wine game.exe and it's not being hidden by distros and supported by filemanagers (supporting .ico and reading the icons from the .exe files not using stupid tricks like wine's converting icons to xpm.) and binfmt_misc it's going to remain a problem.

People like accountants won't touch it because they have to have Microsoft Office. Not openoffice, not any other software but Microsoft office. They also need some accounting software most/all of which would be glitchy in wine. They can't afford to have glitches so they won't use them.

This is basically why my parents and sister (accountant) do not use Linux and possibly never will. Also investment in existing windows platform use is another factor. I see people moving to reactos years before they move to Linux.

Edited 2009-02-06 00:54 UTC

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google_ninja Member since:
2006-02-05

Windows 7 and XP do not allow for touchscreens

windows 7 has full multitouch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTABGen4Ckg&feature=related

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cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

"Windows 7 and XP do not allow for touchscreens

windows 7 has full multitouch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTABGen4Ckg&feature=related
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not the netbook edition lol

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bosco_bearbank Member since:
2005-10-12

XP shows me that the "netbook" name is a fallacy people want more than the net on these devices they want a computer

I prefer the name "laptot" myself, but unless Psion is sucessful in forcing a name change, "netbook" it is. My Fedora/Ubuntu/WinXP-running Aspire One is my laptop. I want it to do everything my previous Fedora/Ubuntu/WinXP-running laptop did, and it pretty much does - with half the weight, half the physical size, twice the RAM, and twice the hard drive space. The only area in which it's lacking is screen real estate - only 600 vertical pixels vs. 768 on the old laptop.

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