Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Feb 2009 21:20 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Netbooks have been heralded as the foot in the door for Linux. With the launch of the earliest Eee PC models, Asus made a bold move by only offering them with Linux pre-installed; Microsoft soon responded by working with Asus to bring Windows XP to the next generation Eee PCs. Since then, Windows XP gained market share in the netbook segment rapidly, casting doubts over whether or not netbooks would really turn out to be that foot in the door. HP has today announced that its new HP Mini 1000 netbook will not be available with Linux pre-installed in Europe.
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Lennie
Member since:
2007-09-22

I have never seen a side by side comparison of netbook with identical specifications showing the price difference of between XP and Linux, and continually wonder why these manufacturers hide the price of the bundling.

Simple answer: microsoft

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Darkmage Member since:
2006-10-20

"Without Linux microsoft would never have.." What a load of bull. You mean without Snow Leopard Microsoft would never have modified windows vista. Microsoft couldn't give a crap about Linux market share right now. It's not growing at the moment at an appreciable rate. Apple is more of a threat. I use Linux every day as my desktop OS and I realise 90% of people can't use this software. Too much is broken, if you have any previous investment in windows applications too much is going to be missing/broken on your linux install.

Your mum will switch back to windows when she realises half the dirt cheapware/free cds/dvds don't work on the platform. Sure you think it's a good thing because techies hate crapware but a lot of people like that stuff. Things like that screensaver dvd bought in Africa not working are going to turn people off the platform.

Casual/hardcore gamers are pretty obvious as to why they'll jump ship. Not enough game support. It's good but still requires console to make them load. As long as people are using wine game.exe and it's not being hidden by distros and supported by filemanagers (supporting .ico and reading the icons from the .exe files not using stupid tricks like wine's converting icons to xpm.) and binfmt_misc it's going to remain a problem.

People like accountants won't touch it because they have to have Microsoft Office. Not openoffice, not any other software but Microsoft office. They also need some accounting software most/all of which would be glitchy in wine. They can't afford to have glitches so they won't use them.

This is basically why my parents and sister (accountant) do not use Linux and possibly never will. Also investment in existing windows platform use is another factor. I see people moving to reactos years before they move to Linux.

Edited 2009-02-06 00:54 UTC

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TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

Your missing reality there a bit. I don't see Microsoft openly attacking Apple. I don't see Microsoft emails floating around wondering what to do about the Apple threat. I don't see any Microsoft actions that suggest that they are any more worried about Apple than any other company. Why? Apple caters and sells to the niche crowd. No business can afford to buy all Apple. Linux on the other hand, is a different story as it runs on the same hardware the Windows does.

What does Microsoft have to worry about? Well two years ago NO major OEM sold Linux to the customer openly. Now, Intel, the largest CPU maker in the world, is developing Moblin tailored to their processors and chipsets. Asus dropped the ball because the Linux they shipped sucked. Intel won't make that mistake. Alphas of Moblin are already very nice looking and will be close to instant on machines.

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kensai Member since:
2005-12-27

Microsoft doesn't need to fear Linux in the desktop? Then why they rushed out to make work a deal to get xp installed at almost no cost on eeepcs'? Because they know that in future products Linux can easily dominate, if given the oportunity. Anyways, is not Linux desktop that has to be feared.

Microsoft is at a bad state when it comes to corporate customers, Linux has already 15% of the corporate market, Mac has another percent of that market as well. So there you go Microsoft needs to fear Linux. And with a cause. But not Linux only, opensolaris is showing lots of promise for the corporate market as well.

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

"Without Linux Microsoft would never have.." What a load of bull. You mean without Snow Leopard Microsoft would never have modified windows vista. Microsoft couldn't give a crap about Linux market share right now. It's not growing at the moment at an appreciable rate. Apple is more of a threat. I use Linux every day as my desktop OS and I realise 90% of people can't use this software. Too much is broken, if you have any previous investment in windows applications too much is going to be missing/broken on your Linux install. Your mum will switch back to windows when she realises half the dirt cheapware/free cds/dvds don't work on the platform. Sure you think it's a good thing because techies hate crapware but a lot of people like that stuff. Things like that screensaver dvd bought in Africa not working are going to turn people off the platform.


Your argument doesn't make sense.
1st you start by saying that Ms aren't threatened by Linux because OS X has more of a presence*, But then you say the reason Linux doesn't have a presence is because Windows software doesn't run on Linux** which is true to OS X as well. Thus - strictly following your line of thought - OS X shouldn't be a threat either (despite you claiming otherwise).



* fair enough opinion, but not entirely accurate as Linux still dominates Windows in the server market so MS are fighting to gain market share there.
** again, not entirely accurate as a lot of software runs really smoothly in Wine. But clearly an ideal solution is running native Linux software rather than Windows software on a 3rd party port of the Win32 APIs.

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