Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Feb 2009 17:13 UTC
Ever since its inception, there have been problems with Compiz; people unsatisfied with the direction of the project forked it, then they merged again. Recently, the project, now known as Compiz Fusion, faced other problems, such as multiple branches and a lack of direction. A major reorganisation of the project is supposed to fix all this.
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Kwin is nice, but needs KDE... On an EeePC, compiz allows me to reduce the dependency...
But I agree I'd prefer to use kwin!
But I agree I'd prefer to use kwin!
KWin does not need the KDE desktop, it needs only the KDE libraries. You can use it also in GNOME, Xfce or even standalone if you would want to ( http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3848 ).
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would be nice if compiz and kwin merged somehow and stopped reinventing eachothers wheels. Not sure if that would even be possible since kwin is most likely heavily dependent on kde.
Definitely not possible. The architecture is completely different and there really isn't any possibility to do significant code sharing. However luckily most of the effects are quite simple, so there isn't much to share except ideas (which has been happening).
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KWin in KDE4.2 is far superior to Compiz in most ways IMNSHO.
Except that it's dog slow compared to Compiz (at least on my PC: Athlon 64 3500+, GF 6800GT, Fedora 10). It's actually true for the whole KDE 4.2 - starts up almost twice as long as GNOME (from GDM screen to actual desktop) and window animations are jerky. None of this happens with GNOME + Compiz.
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Except that it's dog slow compared to Compiz (at least on my PC: Athlon 64 3500+, GF 6800GT, Fedora 10).
Which Nvidia driver? I had the same problem with all drivers < 180.22. Nvidia has stated themselves that their previous drivers had issues with KDE4.
It's smooth for me (some 7600 geforce or so) but I don't know what compiz is like.
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Even with Nvidia issues worked out, KDE4 is still slow. Plasma and Kwin are good designs with a lot of planning, but they still need a lot of work to knock out bugs and work out the bottle necks.
Kwin and compiz do share code. They're called X extensions like composite, dri2, etc. Beyond that, they are two very different projects with little in common.
What they CAN do is collaborate better with Freedesktop (and Gnome) on standardizing how desktop elements are handled. Specifically, wallpaper (wallpaper in plasma sits above what all non-KDE apps consider wallpaper), "Desktop Activities" and "Widget Layers"
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KWin in KDE4.2 is far superior to Compiz in most ways IMNSHO.
Really?
I've only tried KWin 4.1 (and only on two machines) but I found it significantly slower, not as pretty and a massively reduced number and range of effects.
Compiz Fusion massively trumps KWin 4.1 so unless KWin4.2's rendering has progressed significantly in only a few months then I really struggle to see how you draw that conclusion.
That said, KDE4.x + Compiz Fusion is a killer combo.
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KWin in 4.2 is much faster and looks much better than the one in KDE 4.1 - KDE development goes very fast ;-)
Check the visual guide if you wanna know more.
http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/guide.php
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Linux community is so ungraceful.
First. KWin is no superior than compiz, and second, KWin is a derivative of compiz with the goal of be more integrated with KDE. Is sad to see all the trolls in the "community" trashing other projects and not working together.
Im glad I stopped using Linux, I don't want to be related with those kind of trolls.
First. KWin is no superior than compiz, and second, KWin is a derivative of compiz with the goal of be more integrated with KDE. Is sad to see all the trolls in the "community" trashing other projects and not working together.
Im glad I stopped using Linux, I don't want to be related with those kind of trolls.
Yet you in a Linux Desktop talking about Linux trolls
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KWin in KDE4.2 is far superior to Compiz in most ways IMNSHO.