Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Feb 2009 12:44 UTC
Mozilla & Gecko clones Recently it became known that the European Union is charging Microsoft with anticompetitive behaviour concerning its Internet Explorer web browser. The EU is considering forcing OEMs to offer consumers a choice of browser. Opera responded quite positively to these events, and now Mozilla has responded as well: they fully support the EU.
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RE[2]: Reality check
by lemur2 on Tue 10th Feb 2009 22:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Reality check"
lemur2
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2007-02-17

I agree with you on all points BUT this one. if you look over teh 10,000 technology patents that MS holds the linux environment (and i mean those whole complete OS with a desktop, not just the kernel) infringle on tons and tons of them. MS did not persue this law suit due to the fact that it would have made them an even bigger trarget for the EU and made it out to make them more of a monopoly. but the fact is, linux isn't so inocent, so choose your owrds carefully. Guess who owns the patent for the scroll bar....


Mutually assured destruction scenario.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_services
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_One

Guess who hold the Commerce One Web Services patents?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Invention_Network

Edited 2009-02-10 22:46 UTC

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RE[3]: Reality check
by poundsmack on Tue 10th Feb 2009 22:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Reality check"
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

Guess who hold the Commerce One Web Services patents?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Invention_Network

you do realize MS's deal with novel covered that patent right? They made sure of it. but yes the whole petent infostructure is a nightmear. I should mention I am a huge suporter of the Open Invention Network. for those who don't know it, i highly recomend checking out Wikipedia or the offical site http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/about.php

another great place to look is here. http://www.patentcommons.org/ at the Patend Commons

Edited 2009-02-10 22:56 UTC

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RE[4]: Reality check
by lemur2 on Tue 10th Feb 2009 22:59 in reply to "RE[3]: Reality check"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Guess who hold the Commerce One Web Services patents? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Invention_Network you do realize MS's deal with novel covered that patent right? They made sure of it. but yes the whole petent infostructure is a nightmear. I should mention I am a huge suporter of the Open Invention Network. for those who don't know it, i highly recomend checking out Wikipedia or the offical site http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/about.php


The solution here is simply for Microsoft to join the OIN and Patent Commons itself, and thereby gain access to all of the defensive patents that these organisations hold, all to be had for the low, low price of promising not to sue FOSS over patents.

The fact that Microsoft don't do that, but rather try to strike divisive deals with some Linux companies but not others, and not deal with FOSS in general, speaks volumes for the anti-competition strategy that Microsoft continues to relentlessly persue.

PS: The Novell-Microsoft pact cannot get around the patent protection clauses in GPL3. Microsoft (via vouchers) are contributing to the distribution of GPL3 software included in Novell's SuSe Linux, and the (quite reasonable) license conditions for doing that require that whoever distributes (or assists in distribution) of the software does not sue the originators of the software.

Edited 2009-02-10 23:02 UTC

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