Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Feb 2009 22:39 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
Mac OS X Some more details concerning Apple's upcoming Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard release are trickling onto the web. First of all, as expected, Snow Leopard will include more thorough support for ZFS, but it's reserved for the server releases. In addition to that, printer drivers on Snow Leopard will be delivered on demand, shaving off a few gigabytes of space off a default Mac OS X installation. The drivers will be obtained via Software Update if necessary.
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RE: ZFS, slow and steady
by kragil on Tue 10th Feb 2009 23:12 UTC in reply to "ZFS, slow and steady"
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

Cool,

so Linux can still be the first desktop OS with a next gen FS. (BTRFS is already in the kernel .. might be stable by the end of the year and might be default in distros coming out in 2010)

When is the successor to Snow Leopard planned?

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RE[2]: ZFS, slow and steady
by lurch_mojoff on Tue 10th Feb 2009 23:34 in reply to "RE: ZFS, slow and steady"
lurch_mojoff Member since:
2007-05-12

Since Tiger Apple have officially switched to a 24-ish month release cycle, so the successor to Snow Leopard can be expected some time in 2011.

I personally sort of expected ZFS to be available only in Server for some time before being introduced to Mac OS X proper. Adding a new file system is bound to produce a bunch of headaches, some of them with potentially catastrophic outcome, so giving it first to people who supposedly know what they are doing (i.e the Server admins) is entirely understandable. And twenty four months of real world usage are a very effective way to snuff out most of the bugs. Then you can safely give it to your average Joe Shmoo.

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RE[3]: ZFS, slow and steady
by Adamal on Wed 11th Feb 2009 01:57 in reply to "RE[2]: ZFS, slow and steady"
Adamal Member since:
2005-07-06

Don't you usually put you're bleeding edge type stuff on consumer level products and leave you tried and true stuff for the server? Having to work on OS X server just about everyday I think Apple has it backwards. But I'm sure it's because Apple is focused on the consumer market and not the Server market.

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RE[2]: ZFS, slow and steady
by darknexus on Wed 11th Feb 2009 01:01 in reply to "RE: ZFS, slow and steady"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Pay attention to the words you use, "might" is the operative word in your post.
As for OS X only including zfs on server releases, I'm a bit disappointed though I can understand the decision. Still, it probably won't be too hard to transplant the zfs support to the client version, though making it your root fs would require some effort. Still, if you really want it, it should be relatively easy to get it. Let's not let this thread derail into a "linux vs OS X" war.

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RE[2]: ZFS, slow and steady
by aliquis on Wed 11th Feb 2009 11:49 in reply to "RE: ZFS, slow and steady"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

FreeBSD isn't as much a desktop OS as "Linux"?

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RE[2]: ZFS, slow and steady
by phoenix on Thu 12th Feb 2009 03:28 in reply to "RE: ZFS, slow and steady"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

so Linux can still be the first desktop OS with a next gen FS. (BTRFS is already in the kernel .. might be stable by the end of the year and might be default in distros coming out in 2010)


Except that FreeBSD has had ZFS support for over a year now, and has even shipped a full release with it enabled.

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RE[2]: ZFS, slow and steady
by Laurence on Thu 12th Feb 2009 09:41 in reply to "RE: ZFS, slow and steady"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Cool, so Linux can still be the first desktop OS with a next gen FS. (BTRFS is already in the kernel .. might be stable by the end of the year and might be default in distros coming out in 2010) When is the successor to Snow Leopard planned?


OpenSolaris?

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RE[2]: ZFS, slow and steady
by Burana on Thu 12th Feb 2009 20:05 in reply to "RE: ZFS, slow and steady"
Burana Member since:
2009-01-26


so Linux can still be the first desktop OS with a next gen FS. (BTRFS is already in the kernel .. might be stable by the end of the year and might be default in distros coming out in 2010)


BTRFS will not be production ready until 2012. This was also confirmed by the developers.

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