Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Feb 2009 14:07 UTC
Late last week we ran a story on how the Google Chrome team had decided to use Gtk+ as the graphical toolkit for the Linux version of the Chrome web browser. It was a story that caused some serious debate on a variety of aspects, but in this short editorial, I want to focus on one aspect that came forward: the longing for consistency. Several people in the thread stated they were happy with Google's choice for purely selfish reasons: they use only Gtk+ applications on their GNOME desktops. Several people chimed in to say that Qt integrates nicely in a Gtk+ environment. While that may be true from a graphical point of view, that really isn't my problem with mixing toolkits. The issue goes a lot deeper than that.
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Member since:2009-01-06
No I did not and I also don't think that it's irrelevant what I wrote.
"at least Linux gives me the ability to stick to one toolkit and have a consistent desktop"
And on Windows you can't have a consistent desktop? You can't run GTK+ or Qt or normal Windows applications only?
.. it just depends on the applications that are available.
What would you say if the Google guys used Qt but implement their own custom controls, frame decoration? That would be absolutely priceless.
Edited 2009-02-16 15:23 UTC
Member since:2006-01-11
Oh come on, he does have a point... based on their bizarre interface in Windows, Google Chrome probably isn't going to feel right in KDE *or* Gnome, so it's hardly worth anyone getting up in arms about their choice of toolkit.
Apart from the fact that the poor sod completely missed the fact that you were talking about the issue of consistency, and not complaining about Chrome, it was a very relevant post. 
Member since:2009-01-06
Oh come on, he does have a point... based on their bizarre interface in Windows, Google Chrome probably isn't going to feel right in KDE *or* Gnome, so it's hardly worth anyone getting up in arms about their choice of toolkit.
That's exactly what I meant. It will probably be more inconsistent with other Gtk apps than Qt <-> Gtk apps!
So even if you use the super ability to stick to one toolkit only it won't give you a consistent desktop.
Member since:2005-07-06
Dear lord, you really missed the point, didn't you? Read the article (which you clearly did not) and then comment again.
Exactly what point would this be when the application that kicked all this off is about as non-native on any platform as you can get? There's a certain irony there.
There isn't even a proposed solution in there, or at least one that will actually work, and it finishes off by saying that people can use what they want anyway. Choosing your applications via the toolkit that your desktop uses is going to leave you with precious little, and the vast majority just won't do it so you're in a minority.
Member since:2006-10-20
I'd actually guess that people do choose their desktops based on the apps available and they do try to run pure environments as much as possible. I've seen a lot of people do that. most of the DEs have net/movies/music now so it's not a problem for 90% of people. Probably half of the other 10% don't care.
Member since:2005-06-29
Exactly what point would this be when the application that kicked all this off is about as non-native on any platform as you can get? There's a certain irony there.
We aren't talking about Chrome. Chrom ekickstarted the discussion on consistency - this article isn't about Chrome at all.
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Dear lord, you really missed the point, didn't you? Read the article (which you clearly did not) and then comment again.