Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Feb 2009 14:06 UTC
Legal In a textbook example of "dweilen met de kraan open", the landmark trial against Torrent website The Pirate Bay will take off today in Sweden. The founders of the torrent website are charged with aiding millions of internet users gain access to illegal content. Basically the entire entertainment industry is amassing against The Pirate Bay, making this one of the biggest trials against internet file sharing in history.
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I am generalising...
by abstraction on Mon 16th Feb 2009 17:06 UTC
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Member since:
2008-11-27

I dont know about you but I couldnt care less if the music and movie industry do not get their millions of dollars. Ive seen better movies with a budget a lot less than a typical hollywood production and todays music is so overproduced i can not stand it. Music, film and software should be a hobby, not a huge industry. All musicians and actors can climb down from ther high horses and go and get a proper f*cking job instead of cashing in poor peoples money to buy their f*cking ferraris.

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RE: I am generalising...
by darknexus on Mon 16th Feb 2009 17:29 in reply to "I am generalising..."
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

Agreed. The amount they get paid is ridiculous, considering there are people who do a lot more important jobs--customer service, manufacturing, assembly lines, etc--that get paid so little they might as well be getting dirt. That's how it is here in the U.S anyway. I wish Hollywood would just drop off the earth, so the real talent could shine. What's more important, those who keep the country going or those who provide entertainment by practically stripping naked and dancing all over the damn place? I wish some of them could at least sing, but they can't. And now we have American Idol and crap shows like that, and we wonder why our society's falling apart.
Thing is, people eat it up, so they're going to keep producing it. And as long as people are eating it up, by downloading or paying, the entertainment industry is going to keep going after file sharing and the cycle will continue, wasting yet more precious money in legal bs.

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RE: I am generalising...
by abraxas on Mon 16th Feb 2009 21:22 in reply to "I am generalising..."
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2005-07-07

I dont know about you but I couldnt care less if the music and movie industry do not get their millions of dollars. Ive seen better movies with a budget a lot less than a typical hollywood production and todays music is so overproduced i can not stand it. Music, film and software should be a hobby, not a huge industry. All musicians and actors can climb down from ther high horses and go and get a proper f*cking job instead of cashing in poor peoples money to buy their f*cking ferraris.


Most musicians do not get paid much money at all. In fact a lot of them lose money. The only ones that make a lot of money are those top 50 artists. The $18 or so that you pay for a CD gets a normal artist a few cents each. Conerts are much more lucrative and most tickets are not outrageously priced unless you're going to see a rock legend or a pop sensation. Of course the ticketmasters of the world take their cut too and charge you all kinds of ridiculous fees.

Labels should die in my opinion. Who needs a distributor anymore now that we have the internet? A home studio is a lot more affordable now also with professional tools available on commodity computers. Then all you need is a manager to work out concerts, ticket sales, appearances, etc. If you're enterprising you could do it all yourself.

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RE[2]: I am generalising...
by _txf_ on Mon 16th Feb 2009 22:55 in reply to "RE: I am generalising..."
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2008-03-17

Agreed, they should die but then be reborn. They have certain expertise in distribution and marketing and organizational skills that can help artists.

However, they should be taking a more subservient role and acting as consultants and not the masters. This will eventually happen and the labels are scared as hell about it.

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RE[2]: I am generalising...
by Almafeta on Tue 17th Feb 2009 05:55 in reply to "RE: I am generalising..."
Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

The only ones that make a lot of money are those top 50 artists.


Not even then.

There's an article written by one of the punk rockers of the last decade. In it, she described her business (the demands of her work) and the benefits she could income to get while doing it, reduced by costs. If you cut out all non-transferrable, temporary benefits and bennies (yes, going to a gala premier is nice, but in the end it's just going to a company business party) and consider business expenses to reduce her income, she could make more money each year by working at a McDonald's and have more free time each week doing it. As far as I know, that's what she's doing now.

(I want to say the article was written by Courtney Love, but I've confused Courtney Love with at least five different people, so I'm leaving that article above unsourced until I remember...)

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