Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Feb 2009 23:28 UTC
Editorial Does Windows 7 contain more DRM than Windows Vista? Does Windows 7 limit you from running cracked applications, and will it open the firewall specifically for applications that want to check if they're cracked or not? Does it limit the audio recording capabilities? According to a skimp and badly written post on Slashdot, it does. The Slashdot crowd tore the front page item apart - and rightfully so.
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WorknMan
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2005-11-13

... as it turns out, there is a dialog box that you have to uncheck an option if you don't want DRM on your WMA files after you rip them.


In this case, you are speaking about a specific application, Windows Media Player.

There are dozens of different apps out there (yes, even free ones) that allow you to rip DRM-less audio files, in pretty much whatever format you choose. There's nothing inherent in Vista that prevents you from doing this.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"... as it turns out, there is a dialog box that you have to uncheck an option if you don't want DRM on your WMA files after you rip them.


In this case, you are speaking about a specific application, Windows Media Player.

There are dozens of different apps out there (yes, even free ones) that allow you to rip DRM-less audio files, in pretty much whatever format you choose. There's nothing inherent in Vista that prevents you from doing this.
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This is essentially true ... except for the fact that Media Player is a part of the Windows OS. It is, as far as many people are concerned, THE way that one plays and rips media files on Windows.

However, I posted the text was quoted in this thread in response to an earlier post in the earlier thread where someone had asked "how does Vista DRM affect end users"?

Even though I don't use Vista, I knew through indirect experience of two occasions where end users had been frustrated by Vista handling off media files, and that at least one of those was directly due to the DRM. The fact that there are many ways that knowledgeable end users can get around the DRM in these cases does not in any way invalidate the point that it had frustrated those users ...

I would also bring up the point ... why on earth would an end user ever WANT to apply DRM to a media file they had ripped?

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Even though I don't use Vista, I knew through indirect experience of two occasions where end users had been frustrated by Vista handling off media files, and that at least one of those was directly due to the DRM. The fact that there are many ways that knowledgeable end users can get around the DRM in these cases does not in any way invalidate the point that it had frustrated those users ...


Again, please stop lying.

Back when we had that discussion, you only had ONE example, and it was about mp3s. As was proven then, WMP CANNOT add DRM to mp3 files it creates. It can only add - optionally, I might add - DRM to WMA files.

These people were not affected by DRM, they were affected by... Well, we don't know. You never dove into the case to find out what was actually happening. You just came up with an anecdote of someone who ripped a CD using WMP and then couldn't play his files in his car stereo, which could have had any number of reasons - but as we established then, DRM was not one of them. Still, you continue to spread your proven-to-be false assumptions.

You are a liar, lemur2, and you get exposed every time, all the time. In case you haven't noticed, you are becoming the laughing stock around here.

Which isn't fair, because that should be me, damnit!

Edited 2009-02-19 11:14 UTC

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rockwell Member since:
2005-09-13

//Even though I don't use Vista, I knew through indirect experience of two occasions where end users had been frustrated by Vista handling off media files,//

That's because those end-users are fuxing idiots.

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