Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 19th Feb 2009 18:56 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems We may have reported earlier that Apple might finally face the headwind from the economic downturn, but that's not everything there's to this story. Recent data suggests - once again - that Apple customers are very, very satisfied with their Apple purchases. In other words, most current Apple customers are very likely to buy Apple again. Interestingly, ASUS and Acer did very well in the survey as well.
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RE[3]: Tells for itself
by smashIt on Thu 19th Feb 2009 23:09 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Tells for itself"
smashIt
Member since:
2005-07-06

That aside, name me a computer company that hasn't had these issues.


name me one that has them at the same scale as apple
but to give you some names: ibm, hp, panasonic, fujitsu

actually i have never seen/heard of a smelling pc besides macs
or laptops that get so hot that people say it hurts them
or cases that break by just looking at them

by the way: don't complain about other peoples spelling
it gives the impression that you have run out of arguments

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RE[4]: Tells for itself
by mrhasbean on Fri 20th Feb 2009 01:14 in reply to "RE[3]: Tells for itself"
mrhasbean Member since:
2006-04-03

name me one that has them at the same scale as apple
but to give you some names: ibm, hp, panasonic, fujitsu


IBM and HP laptops made up a good percentage of the ex-government stuff that I wouldn't buy because cases were falling apart with hinges protruding through plastic etc. Fujitsu, well their Air Conditioners are good, but I've had numerous Fujitsu hard drive failures over the years. Only experience with Panasonic was with some monitors, they were OK, no major issues that I can recall, picture quality wasn't anything to write home about.

actually i have never seen/heard of a smelling pc besides macs
or laptops that get so hot that people say it hurts them
or cases that break by just looking at them


You mean like the Toshiba that blistered my leg or the Dell, Sony, HP and yes Apple laptops that were catching fire? Or maybe the run of generic PSUs of which we ended up replacing around 40 because they were toasting themselves and causing the evacuation of a whole school when they set off the smoke alarms, with the smell remaining in rooms for days later? See above regarding laptop cases.

by the way: don't complain about other peoples spelling
it gives the impression that you have run out of arguments


Your ability to correctly spell what you are writing, and actually use the correct word (Thom were the sample group looking for a truckload of bauxite or should it have been "awe"?), and structure it in an intelligible manner, helps gives credence to what you write. And its "other people's", see that little apostrophe in there signifies ownership, without the apostrophe it would suggest plural, and "people" is already a plural noun. And I have no shortage of arguments because I have many years of life experience to support them, in contrast I see nothing to support your claims that these other companies don't have any issues at all with their products. And if we're talking about track records with faulty products should we bring up Microsoft, or does your field of vision end at the hardware?

Apple doesn't have a perfect track record when it comes to accepting faults and fixing them. Similarly neither do many brands synonymous with quality. Apple do however do a much better job than most. As recently as six months ago Apple were replacing the motherboards of eMacs that hadn't even failed because they had been identified as likely to fail due to a bad component run. They worked with the schools in question to rotate the machines during holiday time so there would be little or no interruption to their use in the classrooms. Those machines are well out of warranty but that replacement program is valid for the life of the computer. Quality goes further than the components that make up the piece of hardware.

It is totally unreasonable to expect that any company in today's fast paced IT industry will be able to test every product extensively in every environment and still get it to market in an acceptable timeframe. Thom compares Apple to his hand made speakers then goes on to complain that they don't bring out new product fast enough. You can't have it both ways. The quality of any product in any industry is a comparative thing, and Apple is in the mass produced computer industry. In this industry, compared to the majority of their competitors, they deliver a quality product top to bottom.

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RE[4]: Tells for itself
by REM2000 on Fri 20th Feb 2009 09:33 in reply to "RE[3]: Tells for itself"
REM2000 Member since:
2006-07-25

I have, the toshiba one's used to get so hot you couldn't have them on your lap, didn't help they put the fans on the underneath of the notebook.

HP 17" laptop's get as hot as hell aswell.

The problems in the list affected all laptop manufacturers, dell sony have all had problems with batteries.

As for apple users little shoddy products through, as mentioned before me, apple users are the most picky when it comes to their computers. A tiny scratch or any mark out of place will usually cause the apple user to send it back to apple.

Ive brought a total of three apple computers, powerbook in 2005, macbook in 2006 and a imac in 2007. All work flawlessly i haven't had a problem with any.

The mac's all get heavy use and in particular my macbook which i use every day at work, so it's always moved about and is not treated in a precious way.

My friends with apple equipment also have had no trouble with them, apart from one, the laptop would switch itself off. He sent it off and got a replacement laptop within a week, on the standard warranty and not apple care.

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