Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Feb 2009 18:06 UTC, submitted by John Mills
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Canonical's Mark Shuttleworth has announced the plans for Ubuntu 9.10, named Karmic Koala. Jaunty Jackalope isn't out of its cage yet (April 2009), but the Ubuntu team is already planning for 9.10, which will see the light of day in October 2009. The desktop side will focus on beautification and an improved boot-up experience; the server side will target cloud computing.
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I'll have some Server GUI tools thanks
by DevL on Sun 22nd Feb 2009 09:49 UTC
DevL
Member since:
2005-07-06

How about having the server team do something about the dismal state of server GUI tools? Just because it's 1337 to do everything in the terminal, doesn't mean it's always practical or necessary.

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dbodner Member since:
2007-07-01

How about having the server team do something about the dismal state of server GUI tools? Just because it's 1337 to do everything in the terminal, doesn't mean it's always practical or necessary.


Like.....

Are you talking about ncurses type management, or installing X on every server?

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dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

Are you talking about ncurses type management, or installing X on every server?

You wouldn't have to do a full X install on every serve, just a lightweight X client. X is pretty neat in the way it lets you redirect where the actual gui should be displayed.
And either way there's a third option. You run the gui tools on your desktop which talks to your server via ssh. No X needed on the server.

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DevL Member since:
2005-07-06

Both, any. Put some weight and effort behind ebox or webmin or something similar. Slipstream it, improve it and support it. Or build good, solid interfaces in GNOME. Anything that makes it easier and quicker and safer to administrate a server.

By easier I mean that you need not keep a lot of information, config file locations and syntax in memory.

By quicker I mean a centralized way to adminstrate and configure your server.

By safer I mean that while a GUI can contain sanity checks for Apache/MySQL/whatever paramters and options, nano/vim/emacs sure as hell do not.

Bottom end: whenever someone questions the existance of the millionth Linux distro everybody clubs the guy and screams that "choice is good". Whenever somebody asks for another way to configure and adminstrate a server rather than having to resort to poking around in text files scattered all over the place, everybody concludes that the guy in question is an "inferior noob" that simply doesn't "get how things should and have always be done".

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

How about having the server team do something about the dismal state of server GUI tools?

Never going to happen I'm afraid. Linux distributions are always going to be inferior to Windows Server there until one of them gets a clue.

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javiercero1 Member since:
2005-11-10

Obviously we have vastly different definitions for the word "inferior."

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Hmm..that's exactly why I like Ubuntu Server. It's almost OpenBSD-like in it's stripped down state. None of that, for example, Yast crap that SUSE has.
That said, I have nothing against administrative GUI's and we're using quote a few products (OpenFire, Zimbra) that has them.

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