Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Feb 2009 18:06 UTC, submitted by John Mills
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Canonical's Mark Shuttleworth has announced the plans for Ubuntu 9.10, named Karmic Koala. Jaunty Jackalope isn't out of its cage yet (April 2009), but the Ubuntu team is already planning for 9.10, which will see the light of day in October 2009. The desktop side will focus on beautification and an improved boot-up experience; the server side will target cloud computing.
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javiercero1
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2005-11-10

Obviously we have vastly different definitions for the word "inferior."

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segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Obviously we have vastly different definitions for the word "inferior."

Obviously, and if you care to take a look around most Linux distributions, and even the 'enterprise' ones, you will find a pretty shocking lack of any form of acceptable configuration and management tools, be it command line or graphical, and any infrastructure to go with it. There's little, if anything, that integrates various components in a distribution well. The functionality is there, but it's getting to it, that's the problem and Linux distributors don't make it easy.

Like I've said so often, Linux distributors are not going to keep getting away with producing a Unix replacement. They need to take those firm Unix foundations, move them forwards and use them to compete squarely with Windows Server.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Obviously, and if you care to take a look around most Linux distributions, and even the 'enterprise' ones, you will find a pretty shocking lack of any form of acceptable configuration and management tools, be it command line or graphical, and any infrastructure to go with it.


I don't understand this objection.

One can set up a local server on one's enterprise lan as the only repository for all of one's Linux desktop machines. All of one's desktop machines can be set to auto-update from that repository. This could include an arbitrary script if need be.

Individual desktop configuration is set by files in the local user's directories (usually these are named named .<something>rc ). Updates on the server can easily include such files, and/or scripts to modify/update these. Scripting languages are plentiful (Python, Perl, etc). Menu contents are adjusted automatically as part of updating a package. Unique adjustments/corrections to individual machines can be made by logging in remotely via ssh. Tools such as GParted can copy disk images whole.

I may lack imagination or something (because I haven't actually ever had to do this task), but can't really see any insurmountable difficulty in configuration control in an enterprise deployment scenario. It seems to me the required tools are built right in to the package management system.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Obviously, and if you care to take a look around most Linux distributions, and even the 'enterprise' ones, you will find a pretty shocking lack of any form of acceptable configuration and management tools, be it command line or graphical, and any infrastructure to go with it. There's little, if anything, that integrates various components in a distribution well. The functionality is there, but it's getting to it, that's the problem and Linux distributors don't make it easy.


Perhaps this site might be of some help for you:

http://www.debian-administration.org/about/Debian%20Administrat...

Some bits and pieces that might be of interest:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/600

http://www.debian-administration.org/users/mwr/weblog/1

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/406

Another site that may be useful to you:

http://www.infrastructures.org/

Edited 2009-02-23 04:12 UTC

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