Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 10:58 UTC
AMD With Intel's Core i7 and Nehalem processors being out and about; Intel's "next-gen" processors are already here today. AMD hasn't been sitting still, and launched the Phenom II earlier this year. Ars decided to take a look at how the competition will go this year, and overclocked a Phenom II to 4.2Ghz, and benchmarked it against Intel's latest and greatest.
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HyperThreading
by Treza on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 13:54 UTC
Treza
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2006-01-11

What the Phenom (and future AMD CPUs) miss the most to compete against latest Intel chips is HyperThreading.

It is much important for "Server" loads with massive number of threads, where the i7 shines.

RE: HyperThreading
by Brendan on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 16:28 in reply to "HyperThreading"
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2005-11-16

Hi,

What the Phenom (and future AMD CPUs) miss the most to compete against latest Intel chips is HyperThreading.

It is much important for "Server" loads with massive number of threads, where the i7 shines.


I'm still wondering when Intel will release their server CPUs. At the moment you can probably get 8 quad-core Opterons on a motherboard, but you can only get one quad-core Core i7...

-Brendan

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RE[2]: HyperThreading
by helf on Mon 23rd Feb 2009 17:58 in reply to "RE: HyperThreading"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

Supposed to be later this year... I'm waiting for the 32nm chips and multi CPU server boards before I upgrade ;)

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RE[2]: HyperThreading
by gilboa on Tue 24th Feb 2009 14:27 in reply to "RE: HyperThreading"
gilboa Member since:
2005-07-06

Hi,

"What the Phenom (and future AMD CPUs) miss the most to compete against latest Intel chips is HyperThreading.

It is much important for "Server" loads with massive number of threads, where the i7 shines.


I'm still wondering when Intel will release their server CPUs. At the moment you can probably get 8 quad-core Opterons on a motherboard, but you can only get one quad-core Core i7...

-Brendan
"

A. Xeon 55xx will be released in a couple of weeks.
B. ... And trust me, I like AMD, but given a well optimized application, the 55xx will run circles around the 238x.)
C. Xeon 75xx will be released in ~6 months.
D. ... and with 8 cores, 16 threads, AMD's Istanbul core (6C/6T) will have a -very- hard time competing.

Having said all that, at least as far as I can see, AMD still has an edge when it comes to virtualization, so it just might be enough to keep it alive until Magny Cours (12C/12T) comes; plus, if you have a fairly recent Barcelona machine (Say HP DL385/585), upgrading to Istanbul should be fairly easy.

- Gilboa

(We're a long time AMD users; up until a couple of months ago our software was optimized to run on Opteron 2xx/x and 8xx/x, but now we're in the process of switch to Xeon 55xx/75xx [when it's out])

Edited 2009-02-24 14:28 UTC

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