Linked by Kroc Camen on Tue 24th Feb 2009 14:55 UTC
Apple Apple released the Safari 4 Beta today. Features: Tabs on top. "Top Sites" 'Speed Dial' feature. "Smart" address/search fields. HTML5 Canvas. HTML5 Audio/Video (though no Ogg). Acid 3. CSS Animation/Gradients/Masks/Reflection. CSS Web Fonts. New "Nitro" Javascript engine - "Up to 4 times faster than Firefox 3.1". 'Native' look and native font rendering on Windows Vista/XP. I can think of only one thing: "Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station!"
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Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 24th Feb 2009 16:58 UTC
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

My eyes. They are bleeding.

This looks absolutely terrible on Windows 7. Titlebar is too thin, tabs are transparent (WTF?!), tabs are sized according to window width (spatial memory? Anyone...?), but worst of all: dragging is totally awkward because tabs == titlebar, instead of Chrome, where tabs are underneath the titlebar. Oh, and the 3D effect on the tab bar/titlebar/whatever is FAR too overdone. It stands out like an eyesore on my desktop.

No, no, no. If this is called "native", I rather have Chrome's idea of "native".

Edited 2009-02-24 16:59 UTC

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Invincible Cow on Tue 24th Feb 2009 17:14 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Invincible Cow Member since:
2006-06-24

You're right, it isn't native, calling it that is just ignorant.

And also, it managed to crash with a general protection fault at first run without me doing anything at all to it.

Edited 2009-02-24 17:17 UTC

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by nonesuch on Tue 24th Feb 2009 18:09 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
nonesuch Member since:
2007-11-13

I like the look on Vista. The tabbed view reminds me of BeOS, where you could slide the titlebar tabs around so you could see the tabs for multiple windows at once. Safari is effectively doing the same thing automatically.

As for them being variable width, I don't see how else they could be, with Windows' "the title bar must be the full width of the window" design.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Envying1 on Tue 24th Feb 2009 18:10 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Envying1 Member since:
2008-04-22

I am not sure if it works for Vista, cause I don't have either Vista or W7 but XP. It seems to be OK with my XP classic theme. By all means, Safari4 is a beta and W7 is at beta stage as well.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Adurbe on Tue 24th Feb 2009 19:17 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Adurbe Member since:
2005-07-06

If you’re using Safari on a PC with Windows Vista or Windows XP, you’ll feel right at home. That’s because Safari features a native look — just like other Windows applications — including a native title bar, borders, and toolbars. To provide a consistent Windows experience, Safari now uses Windows standard fonts, but you can choose to use Apple’s crisp anti-aliased fonts if you prefer. Of course, Safari in Windows delivers the same lightning-fast performance provided by the Mac version.

you will note it says vista and xp NOT windows 7

you cant complain when it doesn't support something it doesn't claim to.

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