Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 25th Feb 2009 10:17 UTC
Microsoft Microsoft's CEO Steve Ballmer had some interesting things to say yesterday about which companies Microsoft sees as its competitors in the client operating system space. You'd think Apple was their number one competitor - and you'd be wrong. Microsoft sees two other competitors as their primary adversaries.
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RE: Cheaper won't matter for Linux
by Temcat on Wed 25th Feb 2009 12:25 UTC in reply to "Cheaper won't matter for Linux"
Temcat
Member since:
2005-10-18

No OS does Internet (on different devices) better than Linux.

Uhm, no. In reality, Linux (if used as a collective name for today's desktop Linux distributions) doesn't do Internet very well even on regular PCs. Wireless can still be a problem (though much less than before, thanks to the kernel driver improvements). Dial-up is supported very poorly (yes, many people do still use dialup, some full time, some as a fallback when other options don't work or aren't available). VPN capability (critical for home broadband in some regions such as Russia) isn't provided out of the box while being a question of installing a couple of supporting packages for NetworkManager.

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kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

For new distros and especially new devices those aren't issues.

No sane person installs the OS themselves. OSnews readers do that .. normal people don't.

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aesiamun Member since:
2005-06-29

How do you expect people to get to use Linux? Buy a new computer? Way to get converts!

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interval Member since:
2009-02-25

No OS does Internet (on different devices) better than Linux. Uhm, no. In reality, Linux (if used as a collective name for today's desktop Linux distributions) doesn't do Internet very well even on regular PCs. Wireless can still be a problem (though much less than before, thanks to the kernel driver improvements). Dial-up is supported very poorly (yes, many people do still use dialup, some full time, some as a fallback when other options don't work or aren't available). VPN capability (critical for home broadband in some regions such as Russia) isn't provided out of the box while being a question of installing a couple of supporting packages for NetworkManager.


Uhm, no. In reality, Linux (I don't really care what Distro you use) does internet supremely well, much better than windows, especially in the realm of stability. What it has lacked in the past is useability, but that is rapidly changing. In Ubuntu Hardy Heron (the latest, I believe) my ralink wifi adapter works right out of the first installation. The version before (forget the name) required installation of external drivers and command line configuration. Thats ONE version iteration, which speaks to the pace of Linux development. Dial-up has always been supported, once again the failing factor was useability, not lack.
VPN has always been excellent considering it was Unix R&D that invented it, and doesn't cost anything. Similar packages (until recently when once again OSS came to the rescue) for Windows used to be very expensive.

Please speak of these matters using FACTS, sir.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

In Ubuntu Hardy Heron (the latest, I believe) my ralink wifi adapter works right out of the first installation. The version before (forget the name) required installation of external drivers and command line configuration. Thats ONE version iteration, which speaks to the pace of Linux development.


Hardy Heron (8.04) is the most recent Long Term Support (LTS) release of Ubuntu. Intrepid Ibex (8.10) is the most recent release of Ubuntu. Jaunty Jakalope (not yet released as 9.04) is due out as an Alpha 5 pre-release today or tomorrow. The recently announced Karmic Koala will be the next version after that.

Hardy did not contain many dirvers for netbook wireless. A raft of "Ubuntu for your EEEPC" or "Easy Peasy" (Google for it) style projects sprang up, offering specially-compiled kernel versions ann a re-mastered liveCD release that could be booted from USB sticks.

Intrepid Ibex did start to include drivers for quite a few of the netbook models, but not all. It was still often necessary to hook into a wired network via the ethernet port to download a driver before the wireless would work properly.

Jaunty Jackalope has netbook support as a focus. It should install and run everything-works-out-of-the-box on most currently available netbooks.

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